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Windows 7: Tweaking boot time (classpnp.sys?)

08 Aug 2010   #11
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

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Doesn't everyone here (this section at least!) strive to get 7 running best as possible?
"Running" yes, but boot times is not an indication of performance! And it is immaterial once the system boots completely. And I disagree with cluberti's comment that 102 is not good. Once again you are setting up a RAID during boot and that is a big thing. Also we don't know what else you are loading at start - and that depends entirely on your specific hardware configuration. Many systems take 3 or 4 minutes or longer to fully boot and load up everything at start.

Once again, performance after the full boot is the key factor in determining system performance. After all, most people only boot once a day, if that.
+1. Well said.


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08 Aug 2010   #12
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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or there are too many processes running at startup.
Now wait! What's to say "too many"? And what's to say a lot is "bad"? Many folks have cameras, card readers, external drives, printers, email programs, PDA devices, various security programs including AV, AS, FW programs, HW monitors, special mouse and keyboard programs, dual monitors, networked/mapped drives, etc. that start at boot. I say again, as long as the system is running fine once it is fully booted, then a long (3 - 4 minutes) boot time does not indicate a "problem". Some XP systems can take 5 - 6 minutes to boot, then run great all day long.

There is no harm in having many processes run at startup as long as you have the resources (namely RAM) to support them after the boot is complete.
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08 Aug 2010   #13
Laker

W7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

I'm new here and am puzzled why someone would want to wait up to 4 minutes for their system to boot. FYI - my normal boot time 23 seconds as timed by program boottimer.exe. And no it is not an ssd. It's a 5400 RPM HDD (WD2500BEVS).

I'll admit though, I am not well versed with Raid configurations. I just can't imagine troubleshooting program or driver issues with that long of a boot time. I'd pull my hair out. Wait, can't I'm already bald. LOL.

How much time does this add to a single system hdd setup?
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08 Aug 2010   #14
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Laker View Post
How much time does this add to a single system hdd setup?
RAID is for multi-drive systems.
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08 Aug 2010   #15
Laker

W7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

logic - sorry I didn't make my question clearer. When comparing single hdd to multi-hdd setup (Raid), how much time does the Raid configuration add?
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08 Aug 2010   #16
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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I'm new here and am puzzled why someone would want to wait up to 4 minutes for their system to boot.
Nobody said that! But what I did say, and what I am saying again is that boot times is NOT an indication of performance.
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08 Aug 2010   #17
Laker

W7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

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Originally Posted by Digerati
Nobody said that! But what I did say, and what I am saying again is that boot times is NOT an indication of performance.
Digerati - please don't take offence but my question of why someone would want to wait up to 4 minutes for their system to boot was taken from your quote.

"Many systems take 3 or 4 minutes or longer to fully boot and load up everything at start."

Did I misunderstand your meaning? Again I have little experience with RAID set ups but am posing questions to have a better understanding. Does a raid set up add significant time to the booting of an Win7 OS? If so how much time... 10, 30, 60 seconds?

I am having a hard time getting around the aggravation that even a 2+ minute reboot would pose while troubleshooting a system let alone your mentioned 3-4 minutes.
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08 Aug 2010   #18
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hmmmm.....my Western Digital Caviar blue 500GB in my desktop computer at work boots into Windows 7 in about 40 seconds. But then, I also don't install a lot of software and such...only what I need. Do you have a lot of stuff installed on your hard drives?
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08 Aug 2010   #19
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Laker View Post
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Originally Posted by Digerati
Nobody said that! But what I did say, and what I am saying again is that boot times is NOT an indication of performance.
Digerati - please don't take offence but my question of why someone would want to wait up to 4 minutes for their system to boot was taken from your quote.

"Many systems take 3 or 4 minutes or longer to fully boot and load up everything at start."

Did I misunderstand your meaning?
No offense taken but you did, and still are twisting the meaning of my words around. You say you took it from my quote but I NEVER said or implied that anyone wants to wait for anything! The fact is, most computer users would prefer instant on, if possible, and would rather not wait at all.

So again, I am not speaking about desires. I am merely stating, again, that long boot times is not an indication of performance.
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08 Aug 2010   #20
Laker

W7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Yes, you have stated your point several times now. I did not nor am I attempting to "twist the meaning of your words".

I am attempting to understand whether a raid set up add significant time to the booting of a Windows 7 OS? If so how much time... 10, 30, 60 seconds? Would you be willing to provide an answer?
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