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Windows 7: Is W7 defrag tool enough?

31 Aug 2010   #21
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barso View Post
Is the included W7 derfag tool enough?
I am using perfectdisk 10 but it is always moving files about when using smartplacement.
And I see no real benefit to this smartplacement.
Enough for what?

It's sort of like beauty in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone uses their systems for the same things. For surfing the web you might find it fine not to defrag for a month or 2. If you routinely mux video files you might defrag every day.

That said, I like Puran Defrag. It's free and has some nice options without getting "too thorough." I don't want to spend 4 days defragging my drive when 15 minutes is good enough(for my usage.)


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02 Sep 2010   #22
techcal

XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

IMHO, the 7 defrag is a step up from the horrible mess that was the Vista defragger but still lags well behind the better third party utilities in speed, thoroughness of defrag, options,customization, file placement algorithms, reporting etc. Ofcourse, the best commercial utilities are not free, so depends on what your priorities are. Some of the high end utilities even have interesting features like auto fragmentation prevention thus obviating the need for most defrags in the first place.
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02 Sep 2010   #23
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

To my knowledge MyDefrag has a wider variety of Scripts to choose from than any other Defragmentation program free or paid plus the ability to create your own custom Scripts which unique to MyDefrag...



Sometimes the best things in life are Free!

~Maxx~
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02 Sep 2010   #24
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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Sometimes the best things in life are Free!
Ah, like the native defragger in Window 7, which is free, very effective, and does not consume additional disk space like 3rd party defrag programs you must download and install.

I remind folks again that the minute you start to use your computer after defragging, fragmentation starts again. So it really makes little sense to put so much concern in trying to an eek every last bit of defragging out of a drive. It is like washing a your car when rain is predicted.
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02 Sep 2010   #25
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

I do not refrain from eating knowing I will only become hungry again and neither do I neglect to defrag my Hard Disk simply because it will start to defragment again because while it is in a highly defragmented state the optical reader will have much less ware thus prolonging the life of my Hard Drive.

This is not just about defragmentation it is also about Optimization of the Hard drive which if done well can yield improvements in computer performance far beyond any possible benefits that defragmentation can.

For example after the first time I used MyDefrag to Optimize my computer's Hard Drive by using the Sorting According To Last Access Script it took a full 30 seconds off of its boot time which is far and away more than simple defragmentation can accomplish!

~Maxx~
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02 Sep 2010   #26
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
For example after the first time I used MyDefrag to Optimize my computer's Hard Drive by using the Sorting According To Last Access Script it took a full 30 seconds off of its boot time which is far and away more than simple defragmentation can accomplish!

~Maxx~
I found a better solution that nets even better results. Seagate's Momentus XT Hybrid Hard Drive. It uses 4 GBs of solid state memory to cache frequently access files (regardless of OS in use) this includes most bootup files. Making fragmentation and position less of an issue is this regard.

I just so happen to got one a few weeks ago.
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02 Sep 2010   #27
gregrocker

 

The best things in life are free.
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03 Sep 2010   #28
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
For example after the first time I used MyDefrag to Optimize my computer's Hard Drive by using the Sorting According To Last Access Script it took a full 30 seconds off of its boot time which is far and away more than simple defragmentation can accomplish!

~Maxx~
I found a better solution that nets even better results. Seagate's Momentus XT Hybrid Hard Drive. It uses 4 GBs of solid state memory to cache frequently access files (regardless of OS in use) this includes most bootup files. Making fragmentation and position less of an issue is this regard.

I just so happen to got one a few weeks ago.
Slightly off topic but, I was actually curious about these.
Not for the OS, but as a drive for Games only.

I'm wondering if it would help any there. I'm guessing it would only have benefits as a OS drive though.

Seeing as you have one, what do think of it and do you think it may help as a Games only drive?
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03 Sep 2010   #29
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

[QUOTE=logicearth;937145]
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Seagate's Momentus XT Hybrid Hard Drive.
Very nice and only $149

~Maxx~
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03 Sep 2010   #30
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

[QUOTE=Maxxwire;937455]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Seagate's Momentus XT Hybrid Hard Drive.
Very nice and only $149

~Maxx~
$129 at NewEgg
Newegg.com - Seagate Momentus XT ST95005620AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s with NCQ Solid State Hybrid Drive -Bare Drive
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