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Windows 7: What's your Process Count?

15 Sep 2010   #21
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pacinitaly View Post
thanks Max, I also disabled the experience and others
very kewl!!!!!!
Yes, very kewl indeed and you will notice fewer needless services running on your Win 7 computer as a result! I was quite surprised when I found rundll32.exe opening all of my programs because I had never seen that in Vista. Come to find out that these Microsoft information gathering services which are run from Task Scheduler that are new to Win 7 and are programmed to continue for years after the user opts out of CEIP. The great thing is it only takes a few minutes to completely disable them or even delete them if you like.

~Maxx~
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16 Sep 2010   #22
JOSHSKORN

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
That is exactly why it is so important to use the scholarly advise at the BlackViper Website which includes a detailed description of each service including all of the services that are dependent upon it as well as the services that it is dependant upon. Win 7 has more than 2X the number of threads in the kernel than XP did and as a result there are many more services that can be run and Microsoft puts in all the services that everyone and anyone might need for however they might use their Win 7 computer.

The BlackViper website reveals whether or not you might need a service and after you carefully read the descriptions of the services you will find out that if you don't use a fax then you don't need the service and the same with the service needed for a printer let alone the dozen or so services that are so future forward that the technology to use them does not even exist yet!

If you're one of those people like I am who likes to run your computer with as little unneeded clutter as possible check out the BlackViper site for what many regard as the most detailed and knowledgeable advice on trimming unneeded services.

If you like your set of services the way it is then by all means keep it just the way it is.

~Maxx~
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Excellent advice, Max. Thank you. I would love for something like this to be a Sticky, just this reply alone if it's possible and if anyone agrees with this. I'm not as savvy in terms of services and processes as I'm sure a lot of you are, so feel free to chime in on something like this site being a sticky.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
To answer the OP question, I'm using a Win7 64-bit box at work. No tweaking, running some tests for work with a handful of apps installed and running a filezilla server at the moment, along with my web browser. Task manager shows 35 processes, 0% cpu usage and 14% of my physical memory in use (8GB).
What is this computer used for? Do you use the internet? Is there a wireless NIC? Is it in use or disabled while the wired NIC is in use? Can we get a screen shot of what processes are running (window expanded)? Is this only the current user's processes or all users?

One point I'd like to make, is that I notice in my process list a lot of duplicate entries, for instance svhost. I don't know if they're actually necessary or not.

Also, I only have 2 GB of RAM on my machine, so the point of this topic is that I want to be able to minimize my process count to conserve RAM.
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16 Sep 2010   #23
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JOSHSKORN View Post
One point I'd like to make, is that I notice in my process list a lot of duplicate entries, for instance svhost. I don't know if they're actually necessary or not.

Also, I only have 2 GB of RAM on my machine, so the point of this topic is that I want to be able to minimize my process count to conserve RAM.
JOSHSKORN- All of those svchost.exe entries you see running in Task Manager are processes and not services and each of them are necessary for the computer to run properly so make sure not to alter them in any way. If you will take some time and go to the Black Viper Web Site and read up on and carefully study what each of the services are for you will have a better idea of how to deal with unneeded services.

I started learning about the functioning of the Win OS services with my 3 GB DDR 2 667 Mhz RAM and 2.0 Ghz Dual Core processor Vista laptop. I spent 3 straight hours learning all about the 134 services and their respective dependencies and I disabled about 35 services that I clearly did not need and I stayed away from the rest that I wasn't absolutely and 100% positively sure I could do without and no other services depended on. With the Vista laptop's compromised set of hardware there was a modest but noticeable improvement in performance as a result and the start up time was reduced by about 30 seconds where the same level of reduction in services on my Win 7 x64 computer with its Core i7 930 processor oc'd to 3 Ghz and 8GB of DDR3 1333 Mhz RAM didn't show much of any noticeable impact on performance which measures 6X that of the Vista laptop but it did shave 4 seconds off of its start up time which was a 16% improvement.

Learning about and dealing with your Win 7 computer's 150+ services is a very sobering undertaking. Always remember that your Win 7 computer will run just fine without disabling any services and don't ever do anything to it that you are not 100% sure will work. I've always gone by those words and I've never had a problem with disabling services with one exception when I changed my mind and re-enabling the wireless service on my laptop for a trip I took which just took a few clicks of the mouse to rectify.

~Maxx~
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16 Sep 2010   #24
MoInSTL

Windows 7 Professional x64, SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Here is the way that I managed to disable 4 services from 39 down to 35 that ran on my Win 7 computer every day and simultaneously rid my Win 7 cpmputer of daily Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program information gathering which continues on for years after the user has opted out of the CEIP program which is a policy which is new to Win 7...

This was a new one for me. Thanks for the tip & added to your rep.
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16 Sep 2010   #25
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JOSHSKORN View Post
What is this computer used for? Do you use the internet? Is there a wireless NIC? Is it in use or disabled while the wired NIC is in use? Can we get a screen shot of what processes are running (window expanded)? Is this only the current user's processes or all users?
Like I said, it's just a testing box that I was using at work. It's a plain jane vanilla install of Win7 64-but Ultimate. The process list displayed is for all users...looking at it now, it's at 35 processes. There is no wireless NIC. It's a desktop computer with an onboard NIC on mobo and standalone PCI nic. The only thing installed and running on the computer is my browser (to hit internal web sites), filezilla server, winrar and 7zip for compression testing and it's acting as a standalone file server for some time tests. There is nothing else loaded to it (not even an AV app). So, it's whatever MS gave my by default, plus 3-5 apps that I installed on my own. No tweaking done as the box will be formatted and wiped in a few days after my testing. I didn't even bother putting in a key when i installed it.
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