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Windows 7: Win7 Is Slow!!! (my first post btw...)

13 Oct 2010   #21
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
@greg...I'm curious as to why you would suggest that the OP replace Avast with MSE when Avast uses less resources?
Hey hey hey! There's no need for name calling! Erm...I think. What does OP mean anyway? I don't know what it means hehheheh...


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13 Oct 2010   #22
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Because it doesnt BSOD as often. It is hooked into the kernel by the same ppl who built the OS, so it is a better fit.


BTW I dont use mse
Uhm, what does BSOD mean??

(I'm a noob, sorry )
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13 Oct 2010   #23
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ITz View Post
What you need is the ATI "Expertool'',and the new Catalyst..There are some wicked settings for your card and a eventviewer that could help alot.. I'd say look for the new restributible Dx pakage you can find because it normally has all the updates and fixes.. Also try setting your HD to performace.. Run a chkdsk booted to see for any problems.. (ctrl + R.... chkdsk) if a problem is reported reply to me.. And i can help you further by looking at the Expertool event problem aswell.. Please rep me at the top right scale if i helped..
1. Expertool is for ATI Radeon 4850 and 4870. Mine is ATI Radeon HD 4350. Also, I don't have a fan.

2. I have the latest Catalyst downloaded from the official website.

3. What's an event viewer?

4. I've downloaded the latest DX package from Microsoft.

5. What do you mean, 'set your HD to performance'?

6. No problems in CHKDSK.

7. What top right scale? Where?

P.S.: You would have known points 2 and 4 above if you had read my main post.

Thanks for your suggestions but still, no luck
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13 Oct 2010   #24
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
@greg...I'm curious as to why you would suggest that the OP replace Avast with MSE when Avast uses less resources?
I still use Avast some too and consider it comparable to MSE but either can sometimes conflict so to check this I switch to the other. MSE is overall less problematic, too.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by t4akawolf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Remove Daemon tools app.

Try MSE in place of Avast. Use WIndows Firewall.

YOu have at least one tweaking utility. Win7 needs no tweaking whatsoever, as those of us who beta tested it found out the hard way over a year. It will always come back to bite you. If you tweaked anything other than normal system settings available to set in Win7, then either SysRestore or clean reinstall. It is that bad.
1.I need Daemon Tools for the 'Assassin's Creed''s .iso file. I can't launch the game at all if I dont have DT.

2.Removed avast.

3.No tweaking utility whatsoever. Just disabled some features which I don't need. (IE, Printer related things and stuff like that)
GameBooster, Advanced System Care and the RAM Booster sound like tweaking tools to me. Instead of replying that you want them as with GameBooster, uninstall them long enough to see how performance changes. Unforunately with tweaks, you'll only really know if you uninstall the tweaks by using the rollback function in the utility or SysRestoring back far enough. But tweaking is so problematic in Win7 that if this cannot be clearly done I recommend a rsinstall which often overcomes problems caused by unnecessary tweaking.

Try mounting your ISO with PowerISO which is more compatible. Or uninstall Daemon and use disk to check what changes.

If you are getting Blue Screen (BSOD) shutdowns then go to Crashes forum here and upload the bugcheck report it generates using the tool pinned to the top of page then post it there. They specialize in solving these.

TYpe Event Viewer into Start Search box, choose Admin view to google repeat errors to find how others have resolved them. This is how you troubleshoot problems.

I think he was referring to editing graphics effects at Computer>Properties>Advanced settings>Performance. If you choose Best Performance it will send you back to XP graphics, so you really only want to edit out fading, sliding, dragging intact windows, etc. as you experiment and find what's best.

Click through your WEI score on Properties page to access Advanced Tools page. Study Performance log there closely for repeat errors, look for issues cued at top of Tools page, then Generate a System Health Report.

Sometimes Catalyst should go the other way: Uninstall and use only driver if you don't need advanced settings it offers. This will solve some problems with Catalyst conflicts, and those who don't need card settings don't need the package anyway except for driver.
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14 Oct 2010   #25
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
GameBooster, Advanced System Care and the RAM Booster sound like tweaking tools to me. Instead of replying that you want them as with GameBooster, uninstall them long enough to see how performance changes.

Try mounting your ISO with PowerISO which is more compatible. Or uninstall Daemon and use disk to check what changes.

If you are getting Blue Screen (BSOD) shutdowns then go to Crashes forum here and upload the bugcheck report it generates using the tool pinned to the top of page then post it there. They specialize in solving these.

I think he was referring to editing graphics effects at Computer>Properties>Advanced settings>Performance. If you choose Best Performance it will send you back to XP graphics, so you really only want to edit out fading, sliding, dragging intact windows, etc. as you experiment and find what's best.

Click through your WEI score on Properties page to access Advanced Tools page. Study Performance log there closely for repeat errors, look for issues cued at top of Tools page, then Generate a System Health Report.

Sometimes Catalyst should go the other way: Uninstall and use only driver if you don't need advanced settings it offers. This will solve some problems with Catalyst conflicts, and those who don't need card settings don't need the package anyway except for driver.
*sigh* Ok, ok, fine, calm down.

1. Uninstalled Game Booster, uninstalled ASC and removed SmartRAM. Btw, can you define 'Tweaking Tools'? You know, for future reference?

2. Uninstalled DAEMON Tools. What do you think about ALCOHOL 120%?

3. I've never had a BSOD. EVER. Neither in XP nor 7. *touch wood*

4. That's exactly what I did. I mean, I deselected lots of things in that list instead of clicking Best Performance.

5. Generated a System Health Report. The only thing I thought odd was that in the 'Warnings' Section, under 'Informational', the 'Symptom' said 'The Security Center has not recorded an anti-virus product.'

6. Uninstalled anything related to ATI Catalyst.

CONCLUSION:

I see no changes in my PC whatsoever. But I am hoping doing a clean install (as you suggested) will fix whatever is wrong. Also, I am going to be installing Win7 Ultimate 64Bit. Do you think that's a good idea?
I thought I'd either upgrade my Win7Ult32bit to Win7Ult64bit or dual boot with WinXP/SP2/32bit or do both (upgrade and dualboot) OR just do a clean install of WinXP/SP2/32bit. What do you think??

Hoping for a quick reply,
T4
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14 Oct 2010   #26
gregrocker

 

Tweaking to me is anything that goes beyond normal Win7 settings, which have come to suffice for almost any optimization needs. The problem with having made them willy-nilly is that unless there is a restore point for each, you really have to clean reinstall since a Repair Install doesn't always roll back dicey settings, just wrong or corrupt ones.

There is a tutorial here on perfectly safe optimizations written by our esteemed Admin Shawn whose knowledge has created a virtual Win7 encyclopedia and earned him a MS MVP: Optimize Windows 7.

I do not think about Alcohol 120%. Everything I read about it is bad.

Sure try 64 bit Ultimate as your rig can support it. You'll need to do a clean install, so if you have an Upgrade version, boot it and it will see any OS on HD to allow Upgrade version key, then delete Win7 32 bit, create and format a new partition there.

It should configure a Dual Boot with XP if you leave it plugged in, but if on a separate HD then I would unplug XP so that you can boot either via BIOS boot order or one-time BIOS Boot menu key rather than interlocking them with a Windows-managed Dual Boot.

If you have any further questions post back a screenshot of your maximized full Disk Mgmt drive map with listings, using SNipping TOol in Start Menu.
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15 Oct 2010   #27
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Someone told me recently that if I wanna dualboot Win7 with WinXP, I should install WinXP first and then install Win7 coz Win7 doesn't allow older versions to dualboot with it...or something like that. Well that's what he said, anyway. Is that really possible? Can installing Win7 64 first cause conflicts with WinXP later? Also, is it ok to have Win7 64 and WinXP 32? Coz they both need totally separate drivers and stuff, right?

Btw, sorry for taking up so much of your time. Also, what does OP mean? tw33k called me an OP. Should I be offended ?

P.S.: I've attached the scrnsht of my DiskManager (How does this help?)


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15 Oct 2010   #28
gregrocker

 

It's best to put multi Boots on separate drives the boot via the BIOS boot order or one-time BIOS Boot menu key. This keeps them independent instead of interlocked as Windows dual boot manager does.

Screenshot looks correct but why is T4 HD marked Active? Is it an OS?
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15 Oct 2010   #29
t4akawolf

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 (UPDATE: Now x64!)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
It's best to put multi Boots on separate drives the boot via the BIOS boot order or one-time BIOS Boot menu key. This keeps them independent instead of interlocked as Windows dual boot manager does.

Screenshot looks correct but why is T4 HD marked Active? Is it an OS?
1. Oh ok. By 'drive', you mean another hard disk or another partition?
2. T4 ROCKS (I: ) or T4 (F: )? Well, neither of them are operating systems... (F: ) is a partition on my main HDD and (I: ) is an external hard disk.
3. What does OP mean??? (tw33k called me that. Should I be offended ?)
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15 Oct 2010   #30
gregrocker

 

1) separate HD's booted via Bios.
2) the T4 HD is marked active. u can Modify>Mark Inactive with free Partition Wizard or Diskpart
3) original post or poster
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