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Windows 7: DeFraggler vs Win7 defrag?

20 Oct 2010   #11
SledgeDG

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

With nowadays harddrive speeds I believe your defragmentation level could even be higher than 50% before you notice anything.
7200 rpm that means the next block to read passes the head 120 times per second. Ive never seen a defrag improving anything. With that being said, I stick to W7 defrag which runs automatically every Wednesday night (or so) and if I check manually it tells me it's all good

-DG


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20 Oct 2010   #12
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

defraggler is not Volume Shadow Copy (VSS) Safe like the Windows 7 Defragger. If you are using the volume shadow copy service (restore points) it may result in increasing the disk space used by VSS until your restore points are wiped out. I would avoid any defragger that doesn't play well with VSS.

Google "defraggler and hard disk space decreasing" or "defraggler and VSS"

Piriform - Windows Vista and volume shadow copies

Bottom line - if you value your restore points use the Windows 7 defragmenter. It is slower but for a reason.


Gene
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20 Oct 2010   #13
blackzero

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

You should give mydefrag a try too. It's easy to use and efficient.

And on top of that, it's freeware (like defraggler).
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20 Oct 2010   #14
Garlic

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

I tried Defraggler but it slowed down my boot and application launch times. Then I ran built-in defrag program couple of times, and boot + application launch times are back to normal.
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20 Oct 2010   #15
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

how often do you have to use a defragger before you spend more time defragging than actually save by having a defragged drive?

i mainly do it just before (or after if i forget) i anticipate a big new software install. i clean out my temp folder and caches that i don't need, move stuff off of the desktop to more permanent storage if i want to keep it, then have a good old defrag.

i've been trying out mydefrag recently, and it seems ok - it's so hard to judge the benefits compared to other software.

as far as i'm aware, hdd's still need defragging from time to time, whereas ssd's don't.
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20 Oct 2010   #16
pbcopter

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

I just let Windows 7 defragger run automatically in the background and have had no issues at all.
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20 Oct 2010   #17
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mborner View Post
I've heard some say that, as long as the rest of your system is clean, a HDD could be as much as 50% fragmented and the performance decrease would be barely noticeable.
With that, I defrag at 5%
Good thing because the reader in your HDD would get quite a workout operating at 50% fragmentation!

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21 Oct 2010   #18
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

optical?

magnetic, surely.
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21 Oct 2010   #19
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
optical?

magnetic, surely.
Woops, my bad. I must have flashed back to when I was optimizing the low jitter (5ps) Digital Audio Transport for my Vacuum Tube Audio System which is interfaced to the Digital processing with Fused Silica Optical Glass Toslink...





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21 Oct 2010   #20
hexaae

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Internal Windows 7 (scheduled) defrag is what you need. It will keep fragmentation below 10% forever. Runs in background at low pri (hence it seems sloooow).
Forget once and for all about manual maintainance with these repetitive tasks since XP days!

About the new defrag in Vista (enhanced in 7):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092/en-us
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