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Windows 7: Backing up computer

02 Nov 2010   #21
PattiChati

Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1, 32-bit
 
 

Thank you mjf. I wonder how come notices of your replies didn't come to my email when I checked that box. So to start with I would need rewritable DVD's? I do have CD-R. I cannot afford an external hard drive. I remember on xp I think it was it just went back and backed up automatically and you could go to a restore point ifyou did something screwy to your computer. Nothing like that, huh? Don't worry about talking down to me, even your explanation I had to figure out.

Thanks.


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02 Nov 2010   #22
PattiChati

Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1, 32-bit
 
 

Where is the BACK UP NOW Button and do I need DVD's for this?
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03 Nov 2010   #23
mborner

Windows 7 Pro/32 Academic. Build 7600
 
 

If you haven't run backup previously, you won't see a "backup now" button. From start/search, type "backup"
and hit enter. If you have previously run backup, this is where you will see the "back up now" button. If you have *not* yet run back up, you will see a button called "set up backup", instead. You need to have an external drive or DVD drive connected before you do the setup. It is strongly recommended that you backup to an external drive. I know you said you can't afford one but backing up to disks is questionable, at best. Do whatever you can to get yourself an external drive. In the mean time, there's always the on-line alternative.
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03 Nov 2010   #24
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PattiChati View Post
Thank you mjf. I wonder how come notices of your replies didn't come to my email when I checked that box. So to start with I would need rewritable DVD's? I do have CD-R. I cannot afford an external hard drive. I remember on xp I think it was it just went back and backed up automatically and you could go to a restore point ifyou did something screwy to your computer. Nothing like that, huh? Don't worry about talking down to me, even your explanation I had to figure out.

Thanks.
When you can afford it, look out for sales. With a thing called USB 3 coming, the USB 2 drives should drop even more. USB 2 externals, smallish (500GB) is fine for you I think. Get the ones without the software on them, they tend to be cheaper. The portable 500GB WD Elements (Western Digital) for doing your backups is a nice little unit. I'd leave it unplugged most of the time - it will last longer.

As for DVDs in the meantime. I haven't had a problem with DVD+R but don't see why DVD-R wouldn't be as good. I'd steer away from the R/W as I've read they are less reliable for backup use. Generally buy the 50 spindle packs since they'll work out cheaper. Of course don't consider CDs.

With DVDs make a smaller number of images say 2-3 and check that the software says something like "image successful".
Remember I spoke about images are different from the general file backups (reread). Do your file backups - you will feed the same DVD for quite a while probably as it keeps adding your incremental backups. Buy one of the special marker pens for writing on the topside of your DVDs.

To get to the page I talked about - type Backup and Restore in the bottom search box.

PS: I asked the Administrator to remove your personal email address you sent. Anyone in the world can see it. Communicate through the Forum.
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03 Nov 2010   #25
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
USB 2 externals, smallish (500GB) is fine for you I think.
I've been using a Verbatim Insite 500GB drive every day all day for almost a year now and it has performed flawlessly even when I take it on the road with me. It has already outlasted several WD drives and a Seagate 1.5 TB drive I had in the past performing the same functions...



And its Read and Write benchmarks are acceptable for a USB drive...



~Maxx~
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18 Nov 2010   #26
PattiChati

Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1, 32-bit
 
 

It sounds like you are saying you back it up on the computer itself? Do you? Can I use a usb flash drive to just back up my info - not the programs? I cannnot afford an external drive at this time.
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18 Nov 2010   #27
PattiChati

Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1, 32-bit
 
 
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PattiChati View Post
Thank you mjf. I wonder how come notices of your replies didn't come to my email when I checked that box. So to start with I would need rewritable DVD's? I do have CD-R. I cannot afford an external hard drive. I remember on xp I think it was it just went back and backed up automatically and you could go to a restore point ifyou did something screwy to your computer. Nothing like that, huh? Don't worry about talking down to me, even your explanation I had to figure out.

Thanks.
When you can afford it, look out for sales. With a thing called USB 3 coming, the USB 2 drives should drop even more. USB 2 externals, smallish (500GB) is fine for you I think. Get the ones without the software on them, they tend to be cheaper. The portable 500GB WD Elements (Western Digital) for doing your backups is a nice little unit. I'd leave it unplugged most of the time - it will last longer.

As for DVDs in the meantime. I haven't had a problem with DVD+R but don't see why DVD-R wouldn't be as good. I'd steer away from the R/W as I've read they are less reliable for backup use. Generally buy the 50 spindle packs since they'll work out cheaper. Of course don't consider CDs.

With DVDs make a smaller number of images say 2-3 and check that the software says something like "image successful".
Remember I spoke about images are different from the general file backups (reread). Do your file backups - you will feed the same DVD for quite a while probably as it keeps adding your incremental backups. Buy one of the special marker pens for writing on the topside of your DVDs.

To get to the page I talked about - type Backup and Restore in the bottom search box.

PS: I asked the Administrator to remove your personal email address you sent. Anyone in the world can see it. Communicate through the Forum.

If I used DVD's, you would just keep using different ones, correct, you couldn't reuse them. Also, if I used a usb flash drive, what size would I know to get?
I tried backing it up on my computer but it woudln't let me, said it wanted a DVD or usb
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19 Nov 2010   #28
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Yes you will keep using DVDs.
It depends but say a full image takes 5 DVDs. So if you make 3 images in the course of a year. You would store away 15 DVDs for a safe recovery.

For Your personal file backups it depends on how much data you have. When you make your first backup it will ask you to keep feeding disks in (probably a couple). Then when you make your next backup the program will ask you to feed in the last DVD until it gets full. Then you need a new one until it gets full and so on.

Regarding USBs, I'll ask someone who uses USBs for backup to answer you. I just use them for folder drag & drop type copying.

PS: In case anyone thinks I'm recommending DVDs for backup - I'm not. Patti advised she's not ready to buy an external HDD yet.
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19 Nov 2010   #29
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Patti advised she's not ready to buy an external HDD yet.
I'm hoping that Santa will see fit to leave an external HDD in Patti's stocking this Holiday Season because I'm sure she deserves one!

~Maxx~
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22 Nov 2010   #30
PattiChati

Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1, 32-bit
 
 

Maxxwire you are sweet. I am recently divorced and live from alimony check to alimony check. A DVD is just a luxury I cannot afford, I would rather eat! Thanks!
Can you tell me one of the bestest, cheapest one?
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