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Windows 7: Service performance tweak

20 Nov 2010   #11
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Bitlocker Encryption Service
Encrypted File Service System
Bluetooth Service
Fax
Human Interface Device
Parental Controls Service
Peer Name Resolution
Remote Desktop Service
Remote Desktop Configuration
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Smart Card Service
Smart Card Removal Policy
Tablet PC Input Service
Windows CardSpace
Pretty much most of those services are set as "Manual" and are not running. Setting them to "Disable" does absolutely nothing. Those services are only activated when needed.


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20 Nov 2010   #12
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Pretty much most of those services are set as "Manual" and are not running. Setting them to "Disable" does absolutely nothing. Those services are only activated when needed.
Yes, the Black Viper website has that exact same information about those 15 Services in Windows 7 and much much more! There was enough information there to allow me to in addition to those 15 services I disabled 8 other Services that were already running which were totally unnecessary all of which were consuming system resources. I do not like frivolous waste on my computer and I disable what I don't need. How can that possibly be wrong? And all though I always keep a complete set of backups I've never had to use any restore points, System Image recovery or Macrium Reflect Disk Images after eliminating the many wasteful and unneeded services in Win 7 some of which are for future protocols which will not exist for years.

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21 Nov 2010   #13
gregrocker

 

As LogicEarth says those services are set to Manual already so are not running unless they are called upon.

Setting them to Disable is messing with perfection - Win7 is already as stripped down as can be.

The development of Manual fast triggers and SuperPreFetch are genius elements of Win7 which have resulted in the first feather-light instantaneous OS on almost any modern hardware.

Why mess with perfection? Many of us tried during Beta and learned the hard way that Win7 is the real deal.
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21 Nov 2010   #14
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why mess with perfection? Many of us tried during Beta and learned the hard way that Win7 is the real deal.
Greg- I agree with you that Win 7 is the real deal! I just can't get my head around why I need Services enabled for a Fax machine, Bluetooth and other features that I do not use. I realize that Win 7 must come equipped for everyone's needs including people who genuinely need those Services which is indeed perfection, but as for my personal needs perfection is having unneeded Services temporarily disabled so that if I should need them I can just switch them back on with a single click of the mouse. I'm not trying to argue with you its just that I consider the perfect Win 7 as tailored to my needs and not everyone else's.

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21 Nov 2010   #15
gregrocker

 

Hi Maxx -

You're welcome to mess with your property as much as you want, but the issue is that for the average user who turns to us for guidance these services which might not be utilitized at first can appear to malfunction if they are disabled and later needed. It's cruel irony if BlackViper - whose hugely popular service edits so influenced Win7 5 years ago - is followed now and Dad suddenly doesn't know why his new fax machine or Bluetooth won't work.

So IMO it isn't necessary to encourage any service edits since any that are not immediately needed by Win7 are set to Manual anyway. In Beta the exception was Ult's Offline Files but that seems to be gone now unless you move a file across network - many don't know that keeps it in sync.

Vista's early performance as a bloatmonstrosity was largely because it carried over dozens of Auto service settings as in XP but had more resource demands OOB due to Aero and an unpolished SuperPreFetch. It was during Win7's early development (they should have code-named it Black Viper) that these services were changed to Manual fast triggers and slipped into Vista SP2 to save that OS's reputation. It is now a quite manageable OS but not as elegantly so and streamlined as Win7.
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21 Nov 2010   #16
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

you've mentioned 'manual fast triggers' a few times, greg.

can you tell us some more about them?
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21 Nov 2010   #17
gregrocker

 

I read it in on the Win7 developers blog in early Beta about how they were able to move more services off of Automatic onto Manual.

Don't any more about it than that.
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21 Nov 2010   #18
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

They used Task Scheduler to start services when a certain event is issued (which is defined as a"trigger").
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22 Nov 2010   #19
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Hi Maxx - The issue is that for the average user who turns to us for guidance these services which might not be utilized at first can appear to malfunction if they are disabled and later needed.
greg- Well if you are talking about people who would modify their Win 7 computer's Services without making a backup or at the very least make screenshots of the original settings then your point is well taken.

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