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Windows 7: No response when 0 free memory (all cached)

22 Nov 2010   #11
flano77

Win7 Pro 64 SP1 (& Win7 Home Pr 64 SP1)
 
 

Hi logicearth - from my limited knowledge normally when my PC freezes for a period I go into Task Manager & it would show CPU 100% or so by 1 or more processes. But this time it does not. It was like 1% CPU. However I noticed that if I continued to try to use anything while it was frozen then CPU would spike to 100% while doing so (just during keystrokes, etc) then would drop back off again. Was not sure if that was relevant or not, so included in the post. It only shows 100% when I was trying to do more while frozen.


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22 Nov 2010   #12
marsmimar

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by flano77 View Post
CPU 43, HDD 33 - these are OK aren't they?
Those temps appear to be OK. If you have a separate graphics card you should see a 3rd temp for it.

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If that temp is consistantly higher than about 100C I'd want to check it out.

How hot is too hot for a graphics card? - GameDev.Net Discussion Forums
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22 Nov 2010   #13
flano77

Win7 Pro 64 SP1 (& Win7 Home Pr 64 SP1)
 
 

Thanks marsmimar - looks like I don't have temp for GPU. No response when 0 free memory (all cached)-gpu.jpg


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22 Nov 2010   #14
flano77

Win7 Pro 64 SP1 (& Win7 Home Pr 64 SP1)
 
 

Well I've just been surfing net for hours now & cached memory has eased back off. It sits at about this 4-5GB more often than not when we are not doing much other than net & email. So if Win7 is happy to sit with 4-5Gb cached & 2-3Gb Free most of the time, why does it then cache 'more' memory when we are trying to use more.... Seems odd..


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22 Nov 2010   #15
marsmimar

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by flano77 View Post
Thanks marsmimar - looks like I don't have temp for GPU.
That's strange. Don't have an explanation for that as Speccy is pretty good compiling info. Looks like you're missing some additional info as well.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by flano77 View Post
Well I've just been surfing net for hours now & cached memory has eased back off. It sits at about this 4-5GB more often than not when we are not doing much other than net & email. So if Win7 is happy to sit with 4-5Gb cached & 2-3Gb Free most of the time, why does it then cache 'more' memory when we are trying to use more.... Seems odd..
If you click on the Resource Monitor button you'll get a better picture of how your memory is being allocated. 7 seems to anticipate what various programs might need and allocates memory accordingly. From a Microsoft forum: "...empty cache memory is wasted cache memory."

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22 Nov 2010   #16
flano77

Win7 Pro 64 SP1 (& Win7 Home Pr 64 SP1)
 
 

Thanks again marsmimar - Yeh I've seen the famous quote about cached memory & don't have a problem with it. Concept sounds OK to me (for what I know). I read that post & now wonder if PSE8 (& many other apps by the sound) simply have yet to adapt. If they are looking for Free memory to perform an action & it ain't there do they just die rather than asking Win7 to release more (maybe). I have no idea but something ain't right still.

My only issue is that it worked perfectly for 12 months. The only 1 thing that did change when I reinstalled was I put the OS to a new drive. It was on a Samsung 1TB (HD103UJ) & I reinstalled to a WD 2TB (20EARS). Both same speed, etc but could that be the issue for me (why it's different experience to before)? I have run chkdsk & all OK.
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22 Nov 2010   #17
Rhammstein

HP Win7 Pro x64 | Custom Win7 Pro x64
 
 

First and foremost, are you using any kind of 3rd party program for memory management?

Can you install another version of PSE8, just to see if there's an issue with the program? Like a trial, or if not, maybe you have an older version?

This may seem unecessary, but just because this is so odd, I would do these two things, just for the heck of it because they're so simple.

sfc /scannow

Then a smart and/or quick scan using an anti-malware/spyware tool, and then a second quick scan of just the program folder for PSE8. Very unlikely, but takes 2 minutes so why not.
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23 Nov 2010   #18
flano77

Win7 Pro 64 SP1 (& Win7 Home Pr 64 SP1)
 
 

Hi Rhammstein - NO I certainly don't have anything else managing memory - clean install plus literally only the few apps I've mentioned. Not sure what you mean by earlier version of PSE8 & do you mean install again to different prog files folder or similar? I can try installing trial as well but I think it will detect other version & want to repair. I did run sfc /scannow & there were 0 problems reported. Also installed & ran scan using Ad-Aware with nothing but a couple of cookies disabled/removed. I'll try installing trial as well & see what it does.
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