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  1. pcfreak
    Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
       New #1

    Startup delay with blank screen...


    Hello friends,
    This is my first post here
    Its been maybe a month or 2 that i have installed my OS and A few days back i started experiencing this problem. Up till the welcome screen it takes about a minute or so. After the welcome screen there is a delay of 1min. The screen is black in color with a mouse pointer which i can move. Ctrl+Alt+Del does not work. The welcome screen too stays there for about 20s. But after it starts loading the desktop it takes less than 5s. Total boot time now is 2-3min. Considering the system specs, i think it a a little too much. Here is what i tried:

    • Boot into safe mode: No problem, Boots normally without delay.
    • Disabled unwanted startup programs in msconfig.
    • Updated my graphic driver: Still experiencing delay.
    • Unplugged the network and boot: Still experiencing delay.
    • Run Registry Clean with CCleaner.
    • Full Scan with Kaspersky AV
    • Full chkdsk and sfc/scannow: No Conflicts.

    Now my concern is that before a few days it just stood there for 15 min and did not advance towards the desktop, i was unable to boot normally. I booted into safe mode which i don't know how allowed me to boot again. Now i can boot normally, but i want to solve this problem before it becomes big.
    I cannot find any reason to this problem. There are only a few programs on the PC with a handful of games.

    I don't want to reinstall my OS again so i hope you guys will help me.
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  3. DustSailor
    Posts : 2,588
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
       New #2

    Did you go into misconfig and on that first tab click the diagnostic startup option, and then reboot? Does it do the same thing? I had a similar problem that the only solution ended up being a complete reinstall. Can you remember doing anything differently that might have caused this problem?

    Did you try a system restore? I would also suggest not running registry cleaners as they have a potential to break things if you aren't careful. Startup programs and automatic updates (updating from many programs including microsoft update) can potentially slow it down.
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  4. pcfreak
    Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       New #3

    I don't know if this will help but i am posting it anyway. This is my bootlog...

    Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Version 6.1 (Build 7600)
    1 2 2011 22:24:54.109
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\kdcom.dll
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\PSHED.dll
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CLFS.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CI.dll
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\Wdf01000.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WDFLDR.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\sptd.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\WMILIB.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\SCSIPORT.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ACPI.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\vdrvroot.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\partmgr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\volmgr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volmgrx.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\jraid.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mountmgr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\amdxata.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fltmgr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fileinfo.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Ntfs.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\msrpc.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecdd.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\cng.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\pcw.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ndis.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\NETIO.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecpkg.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpip.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\fwpkclnt.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\vmstorfl.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\volsnap.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\spldr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\rdyboost.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mup.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kl1.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\hwpolicy.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\fvevol.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\disk.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\klif.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\rdpencdd.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\rdprefmp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tdx.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kl2.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\afd.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wfplwf.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pacer.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\klim6.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\nsiproxy.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\discache.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\csc.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dfsc.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\blbdrive.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AppleCharger.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tunnel.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HDAudBus.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\Rt64win7.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nusb3xhc.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\klmouflt.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\a4xi89nd.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\CompositeBus.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AgileVpn.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rassstp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdpbus.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\umbus.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nusb3hub.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\nvhda64v.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ksthunk.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\RTKVHD64.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbccgp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbscan.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbprint.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\monitor.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\luafv.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WudfPf.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\lltdio.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rspndr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\TurboB.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\HTTP.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bowser.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mpsdrv.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb10.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb20.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\peauth.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\secdrv.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srvnet.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpipreg.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv2.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
    Loaded driver \??\C:\Windows\gdrv.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\rdpdr.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\tdtcp.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\tssecsrv.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\RDPWD.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\asyncmac.sys
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\USBSTOR.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\fastfat.SYS
    Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\WUDFRd.sys


    I saw some similar posts on this site but i might be having a different problem.
    I don't know anything in detail about operating systems so i just hope you people can help me. Thanks anyways..
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  6. DustSailor
    Posts : 2,588
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
       New #4

    type system information in your start menu and double click "Components". click on "Problem Devices" and see if anything is listed. Make sure you have updated all drivers for everything, especially if something is listed under problem devices.
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  7. pcfreak
    Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       New #5

    Thank you for your support DustSailor,
    As you said i booted into diagnostic startup and did not see any delay, it loaded very fast. Just to inform you, that now even in normal startup i am not experiencing delay but in the boot log there are still these

    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
    ...
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS

    Looks to me like a driver issue, i will start trying to diagnose what is causing the problem.. :)
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  8. pcfreak
    Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       New #6

    To add, there is nothing under problem devices. Also i do not see any yellow triangles in the device manager.
    I am downloading the latest drivers from the nvidia as well as the gigabyte website and will manually update them, then see if the problem persists. Now i have 2 questions:

    • Should i try reinstalling/updating my drivers for this problem?
    • If yes, Do i need to uninstall the previous drivers and then install the new ones?
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  10. Golden
    Posts : 19,383
    Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
       New #7

    Hi,

    Usually it Ok just to install an updated river over the top of an older one.

    Just to check something : when you run full chkdsk, did you specify the /f switch?

    Regards,
    Golden
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  11. pcfreak
    Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       New #8

    Golden said:
    Hi,

    Just to check something : when you run full chkdsk, did you specify the /f switch?
    No. I just now came to know that it will fix the damaged files. I will give it a try.
    Thanks Golden
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  12. DustSailor
    Posts : 2,588
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
       New #9

    Definately, if it boots quickly in diagnostic startup, than you might go into msconfig again and into the services and startup tabs. you're supposed to enable half and restart to see if its slow, and than a little more and a little more until you find which slows down the computer (In services, you'll want to click the check box "Hide all microsoft services".

    Your Graphics card looks like it really needs an update, and NDProxy is part of windows. I think windows update deals with that one, though I'm not positive. Oh, srv.sys is part of windows also (You'll want to update drivers before you start re-enabling services and startup item)
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  13. gregrocker
    Posts : 50,642
       New #10

    Update your display and network adapter drivers.

    Monitor the performance log which logs startup delays and often their causes. Location below.

    Troubleshooting fundamentals: Computer lags every couple seconds

    Here is advanced method used by the pros to isolate cause of startup hangs if you need it: Trace Windows 7 boot/shutdown/hibernate/standby/resume issues - MSFN
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