Laptop takes 15 mins after boot up before I can do anything!!

Inixi Noisse · 05 Jan 2011

cluberti said:

Your choice of tools is up to you, but you are making it difficult on yourself. The other way would be to configure the system and your paging file for a complete dump, reboot, have the problem, manually crash the system with the keyboard during the hang, reboot, and then open the resulting .dmp file in the \Windows directory with windbg and hope you can find something. That would require you to install the debugging tools for windows though, which would run afoul of your "no external tools" mantra, but those are your options (well, other than guessing, of course).

Please understand that responding to what would be considered a very sound suggestion and approach to handling your issue with some sort of retort that you don't use tools (which is part of the reason you're at your wits' end right now - thiink about it...) isn't exactly the way to win friends and influence people here at sevenforums. It appears that my suggestion was not, indeed, "greatly appreciated". Good luck to you in resolving this issue without additional tools, but be prepared for more frustration in the interim.

OK OK
I'm not saying that procmon is a bad tool, it is nice tool even :)
I'm saying that standard tools just are enough... nevermind. /offtopic

**cluberti** · 05 Jan 2011

The only inbox tool you have is perfmon - you will likely want to add the process object's counters for all with their relevant disk objects, and hope you can catch it. It will not give you insight as to *what* is happening, but it might give you a clue. That's the only other option you have. It does ship with Windows though, so at least you'd be using inbox tools as you'd prefer.

mommacache · 05 Jan 2011

cluberti:

Please do not confuse me (the person with the problem) with Inixi Noisse for his/her comment about not using external applications! I am trying everything every one is suggesting. With that being said, I ran reliability monitor and schtasks and there didn't seem to show anything that may be running in the background that could be causing the problem. The problem has reoccurred while I have been working and not just when booting up.

I did run eventvwr and I'm afraid it is above my pay grade. I did notice several application and system errors but not sure what they all mean. I am about to try Process Monitor and see if I can understand that. I'll be back.

Inixi Noisse · 05 Jan 2011

You can export those errors you found, just right-click on administrative branch (Custom Views -> Administrative Events) and Save all events in Custom view as...

Upload that file somewhere, give me or give us a link to that file so we can look at this.

**cluberti** · 05 Jan 2011

Yup, my apologies. Having one of those days and didn't pay close attention.... sorry 'bout that.

profdlp · 05 Jan 2011

By all means do what cluberti suggested.

In addition, answering the following might help:

1) Which anti-virus program are you using and is it up to date? (If you're not sure, just tell us. We're not going to yell at you.) :)

2) Type msconfig in the "Search Programs and Files" you see at the bottom when you click the Start button. Go to the Startup tab and list everything you see here.

3) Right-Click the Taskbar, then Left-Click Task Manager. Go to the Processes tab and post them here.

Use the Snipping tool to post a screenshot of #2 and #3 if that's easiest - you'll want to do that for #3 especially.

mommacache · 05 Jan 2011

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5e...thkey=CIH6oocM

Hope this works.

mommacache · 05 Jan 2011

I've been using AVG but changed to MS Security Essentials today. Both were updated and since the problems has been happening for several days both programs were used. No problems found.

I have nothing checked in the startup in msconfig. I disabled everything to rule it all out.

Can't seem to paste here so I'll put it in google docs again. If you can't access it I'll just have to type it out.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5e...thkey=CJyy2M8P

Never saw the Snipping Tool before. Very cool, too bad I couldn't copy and paste.

profdlp · 05 Jan 2011

Is this laptop your only computer with Internet access? If it is, be very sure you have the right drivers and your Win 7 disc before you try this!

The multitude of errors in your log all seem to be network related. The first thing I'd try is to disable your network adapter(s) and see if the computer boots normally when it's not trying to connect to a network or the Internet.

If that's a no-go, go to How to disable certain Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) components in Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 and try the "Use IPv4 instead of IPv6 in prefix policies" down in the "Fix it for me" section. Reboot, then hope you are back in business before 15 minutes has passed.

If that doesn't work I would remove all network connections and uninstall all network adapters. This will give you a fresh start with your networking and Internet setup. BE VERY SURE that you have the proper drivers to reinstall the devices if need be. If you have another Internet-capable computer at home and a USB thumbdrive you can use that if need be. If not, you will not be able to go on the Internet to get the drivers you need.

Inixi Noisse · 05 Jan 2011

First of all I assume that when you start system a kind of these messages appear:

Code:

Warning	06/01/2011 02:00:34	RTL8167	1	None

General:
The description for Event ID 1 from source RTL8167 cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event: 

\Device\NDMP8
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller

the message resource is present but the message is not found in the string/message table

That means you can have some problems either with your Ethernet Card or its' drivers.
So that can cause other events such as:

Code:

Error	06/01/2011 02:01:32	Service Control Manager	7026	None

General:
The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load: 
Lbd

or

Code:

Error	06/01/2011 02:02:09	Kernel-EventTracing	2	Session

General:
Session "Homegroup Log" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000035

or

Code:

Error	06/01/2011 02:02:54	Dhcp-Client	1001	Address Configuration State Event

General:
Your computer was not assigned an address from the network (by the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0x701A04F4A3B7.  The following error occurred: 0x79. Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.

and some others.

But the thing that just occured recently in your system:

Code:

Error	06/01/2011 01:25:08	iaStor	9	None

General:
The device, \Device\Ide\iaStor0, did not respond within the timeout period.

...so it can mean that there are some problems with your hard disk.

I suggest you check SMART on your hard disk with some application like in THIS thread.

And you can also reinstall chipset drivers or update them, or just download new Intel INF (I suppose you have intel's chipset in your laptop because you have I3 installed) drivers for Windows 7 x64 and install them. I had that kind of errors with HDD recently on my laptop and they were very active when the AHCI mode was on.

Besides that reinstall your ethernet card drivers.

Laptop takes 15 mins after boot up before I can do anything!!

event viewer file in Google docs