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Windows 7: Long Boot Time after shutdown

04 Feb 2011   #41
gregrocker

 

Would you want to consider a clean reinstall without any of the HP bloatware or useless factory utilities which have better versions in Win7? This will often give you better performance than today's new computers.

If so here are some tips: re-install windows 7

You can make a backup of your current install to reimage it if necessary, or run Factory Recovery.

You probably won't want to tell HP about it since manufacturers will not support clean installs due to pressure from their bloatware sponsors.


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04 Feb 2011   #42
airahcaz

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Would you want to consider a clean reinstall without any of the HP bloatware or useless factory utilities which have better versions in Win7? This will often give you better performance than today's new computers.

If so here are some tips: re-install windows 7

You can make a backup of your current install to reimage it if necessary, or run Factory Recovery.

You probably won't want to tell HP about it since manufacturers will not support clean installs due to pressure from their bloatware sponsors.
rather not void my warranty - will try Revo and attempt bloatware uninstall - is there a way to get a lsit of bloatware that comes with the PC? CQ5600Y
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04 Feb 2011   #43
gregrocker

 

It does not void your warranty to clean reinstall. Tech support may decline to support the Clean Reinstall which is why I told you not to tell them if you need other support. You can at any time run Factory Recovery from partition or disk, or reimage from a Win7 backup image taken now, to send in the computer if need be.

You should decide what you don't want on the computer, and uninstall it over time.

Clean up Factory Bloatware
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05 Feb 2011   #44
airahcaz

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
It does not void your warranty to clean reinstall. Tech support may decline to support the Clean Reinstall which is why I told you not to tell them if you need other support. You can at any time run Factory Recovery from partition or disk, or reimage from a Win7 backup image taken now, to send in the computer if need be.

You should decide what you don't want on the computer, and uninstall it over time.

Clean up Factory Bloatware
Thanks. I'll look into slowly removing bloatware, but I have a successful morning with a 38 second boot and not 15 minutes!

The only thing in startup is Avast. Disabled are Adobe, MS Office, and hpsysdrv.
I assume Adobe and MS Office are fine to enable, but what's the point, do they just get initialized? Also, how can I remove them from even showing in msconfig startup altogether?

For culprits, this may leave HP Odomoter(hpsysdrv), and of course the Canon MP495 Wireless Printer. Or, it could have been all the troubleshooting steps I performed.

I'll see what happens tomorrow morning, and then install the printer? Anything else to check since HP support guessed that it might have been the printer as well?
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05 Feb 2011   #45
gregrocker

 

hpsysdrv is a driver used to troubleshoot HP System Recovery and not needed to startup.

To remove items from msconfig>Startup list (after googling to learn what they are) uncheck them as options int he actual program's Preferences which are sometimes hidden or disguised.

How much of the printer you decide to leave depends on whether you want scanning from desktop. For just printing you don't need any services or drivers running at startup - the others monitor ink levels, updates, etc. I'd just plug n play to see if it gives you enough functionality. There is even a rudimentary scanner in the Devices & Printers>Printer rightclick context menu.

There is a promising new startup manager named Soluto which presents a map of everything as it starts up, including System Files. It shows you what you can Delay or Pause (turn off) and makes recommendations. I'd use it as a one-off resource or participate in their interactive beta to help them take this all the way like some of us did with CCleaner.
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05 Feb 2011   #46
airahcaz

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
hpsysdrv is a driver used to troubleshoot HP System Recovery and not needed to startup.

To remove items from msconfig>Startup list (after googling to learn what they are) uncheck them as options int he actual program's Preferences which are sometimes hidden or disguised.

How much of the printer you decide to leave depends on whether you want scanning from desktop. For just printing you don't need any services or drivers running at startup - the others monitor ink levels, updates, etc. I'd just plug n play to see if it gives you enough functionality. There is even a rudimentary scanner in the Devices & Printers>Printer rightclick context menu.

There is a promising new startup manager named Soluto which presents a map of everything as it starts up, including System Files. It shows you what you can Delay or Pause (turn off) and makes recommendations. But be aware that if you Delay a startup with it and then turn it off or uninstall Soluto to avoid the 14 seconds it adds to boot time doing its analysis, some Delayed services may fail to start until turned back on. So I'd use it as a one-off resource or participate in their interactive beta to help them take this all the way like some of us did with CCleaner.
I've installed Soluto - will install printer tomorrow, and see if that impacts the following morning - I do want to use its wireless capabilities and scanning, not sure what else I can do other than return it for an HP printer, if it is impacting my boot that dramatically - or maybe turning on the printer prior to boot will help.
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05 Feb 2011   #47
gregrocker

 

Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
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06 Feb 2011   #48
airahcaz

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
I've delayed Adobe ARM via Soluto and it disappeared from Msconfig - Startup, as I suppose is expected; however, I do not see Adobe in Services - I would assume it would be there showing Automatic - Delayed...
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06 Feb 2011   #49
airahcaz

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by airahcaz View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
I've delayed Adobe ARM via Soluto and it disappeared from Msconfig - Startup, as I suppose is expected; however, I do not see Adobe in Services - I would assume it would be there showing Automatic - Delayed...
Ah, using Soluto, I see that some of these are applications, and not necessarily Services - such as the Adobe ARM - which I've set to delayed - any real way to verify it has run after being delayed from boot?
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06 Feb 2011   #50
gregrocker

 

No need for Adobe or Java updaters to start up with Windows or be delayed, either one. Just uncheck them in msconfig. They will tell you if a newer version is available when you actually use them.

I remove Air and Acrobat in Control Panel if they are not needed as both often generate errors in logs.
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