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Windows 7: Registry Defragmentation

08 Feb 2011   #11

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I dunno why people get so emphatic about this subject.

If you are happy with what you did - that's great.

I think the others are trying to discourage the less experienced from playing around with the registry.
IMHO you are correct.

However, my point in starting this thread was to show that even with a relatively new computer cleaning up your Registry can be of benefit. However, I do wholeheartedly agree that messing with the Registry including cleaning it and/or defragmenting it should only be done by the more experienced Windows user.

P.S. If I had thought that starting this thread would have generated so much emotion over the subject I never would have started it. I did not mean to upset anyone. On the contrary, I was just trying to share how I was able to improve the Performance of my Windows 7 HP X64 computer by doing Registry Maintenance.

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08 Feb 2011   #12

Windows 10 Pro x64, Arch Linux

Most members here won't advice to use Reg cleaners

Windows is a closed source system. Developers of registry cleaners do not have the core code of Win 7 and are not working on definitive information, but rather they are going on past knowledge and experience, most of which is not applicable to Win 7. Automatic cleaners will usually have to do some guesswork.

There is almost no tweaking that can be done to Win 7 to speed it up. The system is designed to diagnose itself and take care of itself which it does remarkably well. Win 7 maintains itself and that includes the registry.

Registry cleaners are pure snake oil. At best they do nothing except use resources. At worst, they can mess your system up, slowing it down, and even crash it. There is no utility out there anywhere that can speed Win 7 up and improve its performance, at least not at this time.

This isn't to say that the system does not need to be maintained. Uninstall programs that you don't use, delete unneeded and unnecessary files. Defrag your hard drive. But don't screw with the registry unless you are an in depth expert in the Win 7 registry.

We have seen the adverse effects of registry cleaners and registry defraggers in the Crashes and Debugging Section. Most of the time, the cure is a clean install. Using a program such as Ccleaner is fine to get rid of old and unnecessary files. A tuneup utility is not only unneeded, it can actually harm your system. Don't use them.
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08 Feb 2011   #13

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86

Chill, nobodys upset. On a forum, one should be prepared for all kinds of opinions of varying emphasis. If one cant speak out and vent a bit, whats the point? Personally, I'm glad you reported your experience, just shows different things work for different people.
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08 Feb 2011   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit

Defragmenting the registry per se, IMO, should not cause any problems, since one is in noway meddling with the registry entries. Good or bad, improves speed or not, I have been habitually doing it for a long time now and haven't experienced any problems thus far directly attributable to compacting the registry.

Eusing Free Registry cleaner and optimizer is one that had an excellent review and I was using only that. Now I use Glary Utilities (Registry Cleaner and also optimiser) since I believe it uses the same software bottled into it.

OT: At this point I remember this. Immediately after I purchased Perfect Disk Defragmenter, I received a query from Raxco requesting a feedback and in particular about any increase in speed after using it. I replied that since I was using the defragmenter from day one the OS was installed, and never allow my disk to get defragmented with almost a weekly defragment, I am in no position to say whether their defragmenter has increased the speed of my PC or not. :)
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08 Feb 2011   #15

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit


We have seen the adverse effects of registry cleaners and registry defraggers in the Crashes and Debugging Section
My own personal experience is that over the years I have experienced more grief from using "Privacy Cleaners" than I have with Registry cleaners and defragmenters.

I refuse to use "Privacy Cleaners" anymore except those within the Browser.

Though I do run disk cleaners to clean temp files, cache etc.
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08 Feb 2011   #16

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1.

Generic advice -
If you do not have knowledge of the registry, then you would be better off leaving it alone, and definitely not placing blind trust in a program to do the job for you.

Should you decide to go ahead -
Make sure you have
1.a current System Restore point created.
2.a recent "Back up" of your computer- preferably to an external HD.
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24 Feb 2011   #17
Microsoft MVP


Have used CCleaner Disk and Registry tabs at defaults followed by Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers for ten years without issue.

These are considered state-of-the-art freeware and nothing to be afraid of.

Recently I've been testing Defraggler and Puran defraggers on my own machines and am impressed by their advancements. Puran fills spaces the others leave behind.
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24 Feb 2011   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Generally speaking, the biggest concerns that I have with software like this and such is that I don't think that in most cases it amounts to really any performance increase.

I see cases all of the time where somebody does something and they say, "wow, this really made a difference. My computer is just so snappy now". Unfortunately, they have in no way quantified in any measurable way the performance increase. They don't have evidence before of how it was just prior to the change, and the results after the change. It's just a gut feel that they have that things have improved. I'm usually very wary of these types of claims.

On the other hand, moving from a standard HD to an SSD is easy to quantify. Take the standard HD, then take an image backup. Restore the image on the SSD. Boot the standard hard drive 5 times and average your startup times. You might get 33 seconds. Now, boot the SSD 5 times and average the startup time, it might take 16 seconds. So, it's 2x as fast booting. You can do the same running a virus span, decompressing a huge zip file, moving a 4GB ISO file from Folder A to Folder B, etc.
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26 Feb 2011   #19
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1

You have to remember that there is discussion of 2 different types of programs in this thread. The OP asked about Registry Defragmenting, this is not the same as a Registry Cleaner. The defragmenter does not delete anything, it mearly defragments the registry files, just as a defragmenter program does for other files. A Guy
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12 Dec 2013   #20

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.

I have used CCleaner for years for registry/defragmentation. I always save the registry file so IF my computer doesn't run to MY satisfaction I can restore the registry
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