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Windows 7: Superfast machine

06 Jul 2009   #11
Robert Cartman

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Really sorry I did not want to hurt anyone! Next time I'll try to be more polite and calm.


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06 Jul 2009   #12
wguimb

 

@Robert, SF is really a great place and we appreciate you sharing your views.

Yes, marketing has always taken advantage of the hexadecimal to decimal conversion factor regarding hard drive capacities. Let's see, 8 bits in a byte, 16 bytes to make a hexadecimal character, seek, read, write, ....... of forget it, I will stay happy with the crap on the box.
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06 Jul 2009   #13
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertoszwald View Post
Really sorry I did not want to hurt anyone! Next time I'll try to be more polite and calm.
No problem, Robert. I also just realized sometimes when one expresses in a second language things don't come off exactly as one planned . Happy SSD hunting!
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06 Jul 2009   #14
Robert Cartman

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Thx!
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06 Jul 2009   #15
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertoszwald View Post
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Questions:
If I put every file what must be changing (write,rewrite,delete) during the usage of the system, for example the swap file, to a ramdrive, will it solve that problem?
How can I do that? How can i find all the files what need to move there? Can I move them?
What is the biggest size for a ramdrive what can made? (I think 10Gb is needed)
If only the "static" files will be on the SSD will it speed up my system?
Am I crazy or just stupid?
Your rude retort notwithstanding, I will revisit your question(s).

If I put every file what must be changing (write,rewrite,delete) during the usage of the system, for example the swap file, to a ramdrive, will it solve that problem?

No. SSD technology is what it is and how you use it will not change that fact.

How can I do that? How can i find all the files what need to move there? Can I move them?

Move the page file:
Computer, Properties, Advanced System Settings, Advanced, Performance.Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory.Change

Move TEMP:
See environment variables when you are near the page file settings.

Move User Profiles:
Plenty of websites will outline how to modify your OS install to do this. This MUST BE DONE during install to be complete.

Move Log Files and other system drive writes:
Good luck. In 29 years of IT, I have yet to find them all. Everybody wants to hardcode something.

Also, the page file is there for a reason. You will never have enough RAM to guarantee that it will never be called. Assume that it will be called rarely and there is no effective penalty for placing it on an SSD. If you place it on an HDD, and it is called, it will not be superfast. But, we are talking about discerning nanoseconds and milliseconds.

What is the biggest size for a ramdrive what can made? (I think 10Gb is needed)

Check out Gavotte Ramdisk with GUI - free, no size limit, GUI.
Edit: Does not work in 7x64. Web search seems to indicate a lack of viable 64 bit options.

If only the "static" files will be on the SSD will it speed up my system?

Yes, and No. It ALL comes back to "What do you want to do?" In some applications, SSD is actually SLOWER than HDD. Of course, if all you want to do is benchmark or turn on Windows or open applications or surf, then Hell Yeah!

Am I crazy or just stupid?

Either or.

Please stay at the theme, how can I make a "read-only" ssd system disk.

From the command line:
example: attrib +R *.* /S /D

Dollar for dollar - you are better off using RAID volumes.
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06 Jul 2009   #16
Robert Cartman

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Thank You Antman! I'm appologise.
I'm happy to see your answers!
I think you are right it is too complicated and not sure that finally it will be "superfast".
So maybe it is better to wait 'till the SSDs became better in writing and lifetime, or use simple HDDs in raid.
BUT inspite of all the problems with it I will try to do it - with some compromise- because I like the challenge! And I want to see how fast will it be finally.

What I planning to do:
-Move every system folders -like Program Files- to a HDD
-No swap file (A lot of people lives without it having no issues)
-Move temp files to a ramdrive or HDD
-For storage use a HDD of course
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-User Profiles... yes its a problem but at least I can reduce the usage of it.
-16GB for the system is not enough so it must be 32. (Thx DJG!)

Any other idea?
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06 Jul 2009   #17
Antman

 
I admire tenacity

I want one of these.

RamSan-20 highlights:
  • 450GB Flash storage
  • 120,000 IOPS
  • 700 MB/s random sustained external throughput
  • ECC and RAID
  • Embedded CPU controller.
Check out StorageSearch.com before you make a purchase. It will be a bit overwhelming at first, but you will make a better decision in which SSD you purchase.

Moving Program Files is also during OS install.

IMO, Moving User Profiles is paramount. Your registry files are there. Most of your system IO occurs there. I will find you a link.


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06 Jul 2009   #18
Antman

 
I liked the old way better.

Windows® Automated Installation Kit (AIK) for Windows® 7 RC

Expect some problems while doing this. You can create a Virtual Machine to test your results. I use Sun VirtualBox but there are a few options available.

Once you get this into your bag of tricks, you will never go back.
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06 Jul 2009   #19
Robert Cartman

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Hey that RamSan-20 costs 18.000$! I'll never have that!

Quote:
Windows® Automated Installation Kit (AIK) for Windows® 7 RC
I'll check this out!

Can I run a x64 system in VirtualBox?
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06 Jul 2009   #20
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by robertoszwald View Post
Hey that RamSan-20 costs 18.000$! I'll never have that!

Can I run a x64 system in VirtualBox?
When you are my age, these things will be common and cheap - if not obsolote.

If your system supports 64-bit and all appropriate options are set, yes.

I have one customer system running 32 bit Vista on an AMD 64 bit machine with Win7 RC1 64-bit running in VBox. It was for a "show me" test and is not a recommended configuration.

I once had a superfast monster machine. 486-66, 16 MB RAM (12 meg RAM drive) SCSI drive (40 meg I think). Fastest machine in the neighborhood, but it was built to do only one thing. Reformat data from an AS400 for processing in FoxPro.
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