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Windows 7: Odd delay before control panel, programs start in Windows 7

26 Jul 2011   #11
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

More than 20 or so MB - if it's a long trace, probably closer to 100+MB (zipped!).


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26 Jul 2011   #12
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

@wombatpete - try uploading to mediafire, and posting the resulting download link here instead.
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26 Jul 2011   #13
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

OK, I've done that.
I've created two files.
The link to the first one is: slow.etl
The second one records a similar pause before opening a program (specifically, OpenOffice).
That .etl is still uploading; I'll post it as soon as it's up.
Thanks all!
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26 Jul 2011   #14
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

And here's the second .etl file: slow2.etl
Thanks again.
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26 Jul 2011   #15
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

Actually, I'm not sure those are "open" links.
Let me try again.
First file: slow.etl
Second file: http://www.**************/file/dcsppsdd552scmx/slow2.etl
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26 Jul 2011   #16
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You might want to try zipping these up with 7zip before posting them. It'll go quicker.

Downloading now.
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26 Jul 2011   #17
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

Sorry... here's the 1st, 7z-ed: slow.7z

One of those days.
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26 Jul 2011   #18
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

And here's the other one: slow2.7z
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26 Jul 2011   #19
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

These are interesting, although not entirely unexpected:

In slow.etl #1 (opening control panel), the trace is 44 seconds (approximately). In that time, it appears these are all a part of the slowdown:
  • Opera, during the time of the delay, is causing a lot of file I/O, and it's because of the Adobe flash plugin. This appears to be the better part of 17 seconds of delay.
  • cmdagent.exe is causing an inordinate amount of file I/O (specifically QueryInfo calls) and WMI calls during the time that the shell (explorer.exe) is querying the registry for CLSIDs to display information (and what MUI / language to use, etc) to display control panel items. This is approximately 5-6 seconds of delay - this is also exacerbated near the end with opera.exe's file I/O (at close to 100% of the total disk I/O time during this timeframe).
  • Lenovo's MessageCenter Plus takes 7.9 seconds to initialize once the control panel itself starts to load, which delays the load of the control panel. The control panel finishes loading once MCP loads in 0.3 seconds.
It appears that this issue is caused by 3 things:
  1. Opera.exe is out of control when running, so assume any time it is running, it's going to consume large amounts of CPU and disk time due to the flash plugin until you fix it (and I have no idea what "it" is that is causing it).
  2. Comodo's Agent is slowing down disk and registry file access whenever anything that can access the network is running - Comodo is fine if you like it, but I've seen enough performance issues with it in the past to recommend you consider something else instead.
  3. The MFT and disk are somewhat fragmented, and there are A LOT of head seeks in this trace. If you're using a specific tool to manage disk fragmentation other than defrag.exe, it might be time to reconsider it's effectiveness.


Slow #2 is approximately 45 seconds, and looks like this:
  • DCOM thumbnail cache lookups take 5 seconds to load.
  • Resource Monitor is accessing/creating it's backup (via WMI) during the launch. This takes approximately 7 seconds.
  • It appears that any time one of the three binaries necessary for Writer (swriter.exe, soffice.exe, soffice.bin) attempt to touch *any* files, Comodo also opens the files and parses them. It also parses other files and registry accesses, basically more than doubling the time it would otherwise take to open the OpenOffice binary (at least according to this trace).
  • Disk shows far less head reads, although the cache is flushing far more often.
The answers to this are basically the same as the first:
  1. Comodo is your biggest problem
  2. Your disk is your second, although for different reasons this time - it looks like this is a Seagate 320GB notebook drive with 16MB of cache, and having more cache would make it faster. Not sure how much, but some.
I wish the answers were a silver bullet, but these traces are fairly simple and straightforward.
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26 Jul 2011   #20
wombatpete

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

Fascinating. I would have thought there was something being queried that eventually just timed out, allowing things to continue. But I suppose not.
Thank you, sir.
I'll test the browser issue; that's easy enough.
The HDD was destined for upgrade, anyway.
What about the firewall/antivirus? Do you here have a recommendation on this? Is there a consensus?
Thanks again, it's the first actually answer I've gotten in a lot of searching over this week.
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