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Windows 7: Don't Know Why

31 Jul 2011   #11
treadhead194

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

If you install Windows 7 32bit it does create a 100mb system partition however I notice that if you install Win 7 64bit there is no 100mb system partition. I just happen to notice this when I had installed Win 7 32bit and was changing to the 64bit OS. If the 32bit creates the partition why not the 64bit? I checked this out using DISKPART. Also when I did a clean install I had disconnected all other hard drives so a seperate partition could not have been created on another hard drive. Yet when another hard drive is connected, and you check, C is disk 0, however when you reboot, C is kicked out and Disk 0 is now Disk 1. I also noticed something a few minutes ago when Windows boots, after connecting another disk a message came up on the boot screen saying something about "Windows Machine". I couldn't read it all cause it went by so fast. I'm not a computer whiz but I would venture to say something is screwy with the OS and if Microsoft doesn't know how to fix it, then I guess we'll just have to live with it. As long as my system works, I'm happy, even though it's wrong.


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31 Jul 2011   #12
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post


Is it a separate System Reserved partition which is triggering the Disk 0 allocation?

BFK in your example you don't have a separate System reserved.

I know mate, I've just done about 4 straight back to back clean installs to this PC and I'm seeing (in my case) when I change the installer issued drive letters the disk numbers change.

I've changed HDDs to a couple brand new ones but that has had no inpact on this as the 'new' HDDs (disk numbers) are acting the same as the 'old' HDDs did.

No I have no System Reserved added, so image creation and use will be way easier.

Here's with the installer issued drive letters, I'm not going to change them to see if the Disk numbers slip again.
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31 Jul 2011   #13
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Now look at this POS, I just did a restart and see what it is now!

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31 Jul 2011   #14
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post

No I have no System Reserved added, so image creation and use will be way easier.

Here's with the installer issued drive letters, I'm not going to change them to see if the Disk numbers slip again.
I take your first point. But your last post says they did slip again.
I know it's a long shot but you could try putting in a separate system reserved and see what happens. My curiosity - your effort!
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31 Jul 2011   #15
treadhead194

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

To mfj: After installing Win 7 32bit (which I didn't want in the first place, I wanted Win 7 64bit), and after finding out about DISKPART (I'm not a computer whiz) I found that Win 7 32 does create a 100mb system partition on disk 0. However, Win 7 64bit does not, again using DISKPART. When I did a clean install I disconnected all drives but C and did a clean install. Checking again with DISKPART there is no 100mb system partition in Win 7 64bit, it is all one partition. WHY does Win 32 create a partition where Win 64 does not? If the system partition is truely needed then Win 64 needs to be fixed.
Now, in my situation I think I figured out how to keep C as Disk 0. My motherboard is a P55 FTW 200 made by EVGA. There are 3 rows of sata ports. The sata ports are set as: (top set) 0 next to the motherboard, 1-on top of 0,(middle set) 2 next to the mb, 3 on top of 2, (bottom set) 4 next to mb and 5 -on top of 4.
My understanding is that C is to be set to sata 0, D to sata 1, E to sata 2 and so on. Whell, I did just that and I kept loosing C from Disk 0 to Disk 1. So I tried something else. I connected C to sata 0 and D to sata 2, did a reeboot and C was still Disk 0. I connected D drive to sata 4, did a reboot and C was still Disk 0, I connected my DVD to sata 1, did a reeboot and C was still Disk 0, I did another reeboot cause I couldn't believe it and C was still Disk 0. Now I'm not saying that all is well in Never Never land cause I do believe in Murphy's law, but for now everything is where it should be, but who knows, I may shut down tonight and tomorrow C drive just may be disk 5.
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31 Jul 2011   #16
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Windows 7 x64 will create the system reserved. Your problem must have something to do with the state of the HDD you installed to.
If you clean install to an unallocated disk it will create the 100MB partition.

I decided to have a system reserved but wanted 200MB (better to avoid some Windows imaging problems).
1) create a 200MB primary partition and mark it active. This will be your system reserved.
2) create an adjacent X GB (X= 100-200GB say) partition to hold your OS (Boot,...) partition.

Do a clean install and that's it.
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31 Jul 2011   #17
treadhead194

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

After 6 reboots and 1 complete shutdown here's what I got:


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31 Jul 2011   #18
treadhead194

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 
Don't Know Why

After 6 reboots and 1 complete shutdown here's what I got:

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31 Jul 2011   #19
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

OK your suggestion and my work, perhaps they won't slip now.


@treadhead194, sorry mate, I'm not ignoring you, I'm going to go back and read through your posts and communicate with you over this.


Here's my current situation.
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31 Jul 2011   #20
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Oh well, that didn't do it.

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