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Windows 7: Cleaning the computer case

08 Aug 2011   #11
4eyed

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Ok, looks like i'll be going in that town tomorow and i'll buy cans of compr. air. I really hope that no hardware is damaged. Thanks for the help!


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08 Aug 2011   #12
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I wouldn't be too concerned about the air damaging any hardware, but as said, it is possible that air or you might loosen a connection somewhere, but that is easily fixed.
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08 Aug 2011   #13
4eyed

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Oh i meant, i hope that there is no already damaged hardware ( like, a bad psu ) that was causing the problem.
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08 Aug 2011   #14
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Well, cleaning will take you one step closer to knowing. Since your problem involves videos, I would take a close look at the video card while you are in the case.

EDIT: Another thought occurred...what video card and driver are you using? Have you tried reinstalling the driver, after cleaning with Ccleaner? Also, what is basis of your conclusion that the lack of cleaning was the cause of this...do you have a monitor to provide you with temps?
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08 Aug 2011   #15
legacy7955

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4eyed:

Please forgive me for adding my experiences to this thread, but as to seeker's question.

I know that with my old, very old HP pavilion 7955 with equally old

Nvida Riva TNT2 graphics card I have no dedicated fan and when I play videos as the chip heats up with a closed case I experience choppy video, 4eyed's prob seems to show evidence of heat related performance degradation...at least he probably has a fan on his heatsink!!!!!

I got an old PS fan and I'm going to aim it at that my old Nvida chip/heatsink.
Hopefully it will work!
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09 Aug 2011   #16
4eyed

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Well, cleaning will take you one step closer to knowing. Since your problem involves videos, I would take a close look at the video card while you are in the case.

EDIT: Another thought occurred...what video card and driver are you using? Have you tried reinstalling the driver, after cleaning with Ccleaner? Also, what is basis of your conclusion that the lack of cleaning was the cause of this...do you have a monitor to provide you with temps?
I am using the newest gpu drivers ( downloaded them from the nvidia website a couple of days ago ), i'll reinstall the drivers now, and the basis of my conclusion is that it wasn't cleaned for about 4 months and i saw that some people had the same problem and they solved it with cleaning.. Also, i have Everest Home edition, and it showed me that the cpu temperature while idle is about 40c, and while playing games 60c.
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09 Aug 2011   #17
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

The thing about temperatures is that there is no precise standard to go by as far as what is normal. While the CPU temperature you mention is not ideal, it may be within a range of temp to be expected for your rig's configuration and environment, but I can't say that it is, because your System Specs for that machine are not given. The starting point is established when all components are running optimally, clean and in the environment in which it will remain. When I asked about your temps, I was asking about more than the CPU, because all temps relate to each other, but in this instance, I was thinking most of the GPU temp. Once you know your usual temps, what you need to be alert for is any unexpected change. It is this change that makes it easier to diagnose a problem, and take the proper steps to handle them.

I am not attempting to discourage you from cleaning the computer, that would be foolish of me, but yet I'm not convinced that it will solve this particular problem. In my opinion, 4 months is a short time as far as necessary cleaning, unless the environment in which your computer operates is not ideal, such as being dusty, or laden with cat fur balls, children unreined, etc. Go ahead and clean it, but more importantly, establish a baseline of temps to serve as the starting point for future comparison. Note these temps not only for the CPU, but also the system, GPU, hard drives, RAM, and anything else that you might have available, and the room temperature in which they remain. With these in hand, routine checks of future temps will make you aware of any changes before they become critical, and may suggest the origin of the change. I would recommend a monitor that displays temps in the System Tray, like SpeedFan. I have it set to display the CPU temp, and I can check the rest of them by simply mousing over the tray icon.

There is a new WHQL Nvidia driver...if your card is Nvidia, which you might try, but if you do, I would use Ccleaner as I mentioned previously, to clear out any remaining pieces of the current or previous drivers installed first, to eliminate the possibility of a driver issue. With these things done, you will be able to make better decisions about this problem and any that may appear in the future. BTW, the temp that you mentioned for the CPU during game play are not as important as the GPU temp.
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10 Aug 2011   #18
4eyed

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This is what Speedfan says:
GPU: 51c
Temp 1: 37c
Temp 2: 127c
Temp 3: 127c
HD0: 33c
Temp 1: 36c
Core: 12c

I would really like to know what are these Temp 2 and 3, because the temperatures are insane!
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10 Aug 2011   #19
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Temp 3 is common, because SpeedFan doesn't interpret all temps correctly, it should be disabled. I would say the same about temp 2, but it should be either the CPU or System temp, however I would guess that the second temp 1 is probably the CPU. That can be confirmed by simply watching the temp during a CPU intensive activity and seeing that it would rise and fall as expected. If Temp 2 remains constant at that high reading, then it is also a false reading, and should be disabled.

Once that you are certain what each temp is, you should highlight each one in Configuration and rename it appropriately for easy reference.
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10 Aug 2011   #20
4eyed

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

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This is how it looks like after playing assassin's creed brotherhood. I pressed alt+tab and immediately pressed print screen after the game was minimized. Is it too hot?


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