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Windows 7: poor performance on good hardware -- why?

01 Aug 2009   #11
HerrKaLeun

W7 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hoozey View Post
Yeah, I just have windows on the SSD, and install most of my programs on my larger drive.
but then it still takes a while to start large applications (CAD, Photoshop etc.)? If a 32 GB SDD could help me a lot I'd consider one (more than I consider a 128 GB HDD right now). Maybe I wait till SATA 3.0 SSDs come out...

Muad Dib: Ram disk became obsolete with pre-fetch right? now Windows automatically uses all the RAM, correct?
I agree, plenty of RAM is essential to a fast computer (and cheaper than adding an SSD). hoozey definitely has a good PC that potentially could be as fast as the wind.


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01 Aug 2009   #12
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
but then it still takes a while to start large applications (CAD, Photoshop etc.)? If a 32 GB SDD could help me a lot I'd consider one (more than I consider a 128 GB HDD right now). Maybe I wait till SATA 3.0 SSDs come out...

Muad Dib: Ram disk became obsolete with pre-fetch right? now Windows automatically uses all the RAM, correct?
I agree, plenty of RAM is essential to a fast computer (and cheaper than adding an SSD). hoozey definitely has a good PC that potentially could be as fast as the wind.
I doubt that they are obsolete but with 64 bit architecture and cheap memory I would think they draw little attention from developers.

Yes Window 7 will use all available memory as standby EVENTUALLY. Try it for yourself. Start the Resource Monitor and click the Memory tab. Note how much memory is "Standby". Now start up and stop every app you have, the bigger the app the better. Now check your Memory tab in Resource Monitor.

It is one of the reasons I now use SLEEP mode routinely. All my most used apps stay loaded.
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02 Aug 2009   #13
Vipermk2

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Free up some space.

* Drive indexing: disabled (my computer, right click on the Core SSD drive, properties, uncheck Drive indexing...follow the small wizard guide and wait for it to finish.)

* Prefetch: disabled (Start add search entry regedit then hit regedit.exe. Goto...Hkey_local_machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet \Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters...right click Enableprefetcher...hit modify and change 3 to 0 and hit OK)

* Superfetch: disabled (start...add search entry regedit then hit regedit.exe. Goto...Hkey_local_machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet \Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters...rightclick EnableSuperfetch...hit modify and change 3 to 0 and hit OK) and (Start...control panel...classic view...administrative tools...services...scroll down to superfetch and right click...properties...change startup type to disabled)

* Defrag: disabled (my computer, right click on the Core drive, properties, tools, defragment...uncheck schedule defragment this drive)



=> Search Indexing: disabled (Start...control panel...classic view...administrative tools...services...scroll down to windows search and right click...properties...change startup type to disabled)

=> System Restore: disabled (Right click my computer...properties...advanced system settings...system protection tab...un check C drive and follow on screen instructions)

=> Hibernation: disabled
(1. Click Start, and then type cmd in the Start Search box.
2. In the search results list, right-click Command Prompt or Cmd, and then click Run as Administrator on the pop up contextual menu.
3. If you are prompted by User Account Control for permission, click Continue.
4. At the command prompt, type the following command, and then press ENTER: powercfg.exe -h off
5. Type exit, and then press ENTER.)
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02 Aug 2009   #14
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hoozey View Post
Hello guys!

I just bought a new computer the other week:

i7 920
12GB DDR3 RAM
EVGA X58 mobo
EVGA GTX285

I have Windows 7 (x64) build 7264 installed and encrypted on a 32GB SSD.
(I also have a 1TB drive for storage.)

I installed it about a week ago and lately it has been becoming sluggish and unresponsive at times. Mostly when loading webpages with lots of pictures or videos. I've tried 3 different browsers with the same result. When watching streaming video, it freezes randomly for a few seconds at a time when playing (but the video play bar shows that it's loaded way past the point where it freezes). I don't think it's my internet connection, because it's pretty fast (university) and I don't have these problems in ubuntu. Also, iTunes sometimes takes 5-10 seconds to gain window focus when I click on it.

I'm having trouble pinpointing where the problem lies. It's obviously not the memory. The processor does't seem to be under a heavy load (and it has 4 cores). Could it be the SSD somehow? It is one of the cheaper ones. My ubuntu installation is on the regular hd and works fine.

Thoughts/ideas/suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,
hoozey
does this sound familiar: Inactive taskbar & icons
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02 Aug 2009   #15
Mikaka

Windows 7 build 7600 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vipermk2 View Post
Free up some space.

* Drive indexing: disabled (my computer, right click on the Core SSD drive, properties, uncheck Drive indexing...follow the small wizard guide and wait for it to finish.)

* Prefetch: disabled (Start add search entry regedit then hit regedit.exe. Goto...Hkey_local_machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet \Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters...right click Enableprefetcher...hit modify and change 3 to 0 and hit OK)

* Superfetch: disabled (start...add search entry regedit then hit regedit.exe. Goto...Hkey_local_machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet \Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters...rightclick EnableSuperfetch...hit modify and change 3 to 0 and hit OK) and (Start...control panel...classic view...administrative tools...services...scroll down to superfetch and right click...properties...change startup type to disabled)

* Defrag: disabled (my computer, right click on the Core drive, properties, tools, defragment...uncheck schedule defragment this drive)



=> Search Indexing: disabled (Start...control panel...classic view...administrative tools...services...scroll down to windows search and right click...properties...change startup type to disabled)

=> System Restore: disabled (Right click my computer...properties...advanced system settings...system protection tab...un check C drive and follow on screen instructions)

=> Hibernation: disabled
(1. Click Start, and then type cmd in the Start Search box.
2. In the search results list, right-click Command Prompt or Cmd, and then click Run as Administrator on the pop up contextual menu.
3. If you are prompted by User Account Control for permission, click Continue.
4. At the command prompt, type the following command, and then press ENTER: powercfg.exe -h off
5. Type exit, and then press ENTER.)
What for he'll use the RAM when he'll disable SuperFetch by following your guide??
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03 Aug 2009   #16
Vipermk2

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

It's a setting that is commonly disabled when using an SSD drive, have you not checked his/her specs or post.
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03 Aug 2009   #17
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vipermk2 View Post
It's a setting that is commonly disabled when using an SSD drive, have you not checked his/her specs or post.
indeed...I very much go against disabling Superfetch unless it is a SSD...
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05 Aug 2009   #18
gamepro127

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
Encrypted?Did you encrypt the entire boot drive? Bitlocker? Or some other whole drive encryption tool?I would have to think that that would slow things down quite a bit if so... all temp files DLed from web browsers and all virtual memory would slow down.
its probaby a virus..Do a scan with malwarebytes anti-malware and online scan at ESET.com
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05 Aug 2009   #19
Gene

Windows 7 7265 x64
 
 

I don't see where you listed the brand and model of your SSD but you said one of the cheaper ones and I suspect that is exactly where the problem lies.
The less expensive and older SSD's suffer from a severe stuttering problem when writing to small files which is exactly what you describe. This gets much worse when the drive approaches capacity.

This can be helped by getting page files and Browser cache off the SSD. There are a number of other recommended tweaks - google ssd tweaks and you will find a wealth of information.

The only real solution is to get one of the better SSDs like the Intel X25-M or the OCZ Vertex. The good news is that SSD prices are rapidly dropping.
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