How do you defrag?

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  1. bru
    Posts : 417
    Win 7 Home Premium x64
       #11

    manhunter2826 said:
    have never defragged any of my win 7 machines -- yet...i always read (was told ? lol ) as not necessary with win 7.
    So you specifically turned off the built in Disk Defragmenter. I'm pretty sure mine was enabled by default. I've noticed it defrags more often than the once a week it is set for .
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  2. Posts : 2,127
    Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
       #12

    bru said:
    manhunter2826 said:
    have never defragged any of my win 7 machines -- yet...i always read (was told ? lol ) as not necessary with win 7.
    So you specifically turned off the built in Disk Defragmenter. I'm pretty sure mine was enabled by default. I've noticed it defrags more often than the once a week it is set for .
    oops forgot about that and just checked; u are correct sir -- it is indeed enabled to run weekly in background. thanks for reminder sir. rep given .
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  3. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #13

    I have found that Windows 7 doesn't fragment as much as the older systems. It will depend how much stuff one installs and removes. Windows 7 does as good as any other free ones I have tried. On my XP systems I used Diskeeper Pro and swore it was great but that be because I paid so much for it.
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  4. Posts : 148
    Windows 7 Home Basic, 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Howard, if you have a lot of empty space on your hard drive, you will not be continually making fragments.

    Manhunter, it is not necessary to run defrag on Windows 7 because Windows 7 does it automatically once a week, unless you tell it not to. If you have not done anything yet, then you are fine: Win 7 is already defragging for you.
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  5. Posts : 39
    W7 Pro, W7 Ult, W7 Enterprise
       #15

    The best defragger is no defragger, which is what you need when you have an SSD.

    None of these defraggers, including the one Howard's employer (the Diskeeper spammers) makes are worth much of anything because they ignore the fact that the files you need to do *anything* are always scattered all over the disk. Any program you want to start is going to involve exe, dll, ini, cfg, etc. etc. files and NONE of these defraggers makes the slightest attempt to consolidate these files in a way that minimizes seek and latency of mechanical disks. All the publishers of these things want to talk about is file (and sometimes directory and metadata) fragmentation which you can see is only a part of the problem of speeding up response times of mechanical disks.

    Actually, there is (or was) one defragger that kinda sorta recognizes the importance of consolidating files on a folder-by-folder layout -- O&O has that option. But even that only half-addresses the problem because on any typical startup, the system still has to access files in the program directory, directory structure itself, the Windows hierarchy, the User hierarchy, and perhaps other places, which are still scattered across the disk.

    Bottom line -- use the one Bill gave you. It's 90% as good as anything else, none of which really solve the fundamental problem as well as a SSD does.
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