No prob Pilgrim we are all learning here. There is just a very low tolerance for Reg Cleaners since we've seen the problems they cause.
Burdus, Perfect Disk also has a boot time defrag which gets System Files but it is harder to access than Puran's. Plus I like including Disk Check when defragging to get everything checked at once.
One thing I have noticed about PerfectDisk is when using the SmartOptimize feature it ALWAYS wipes out my System Restore Points. I've tried excluding the System Volume Information folder and changing the VSS compatible mode options but it still deletes them all.
Anyway, I'm digressing. :)
I know what you mean, I just find it strange it would pick up it's own unnecessary registry keys straight after install. Not saying it's a bad product though, I just avoid them due to bad experiences I've had myself. :)Speaking as someone who both runs registry cleaners and installs software on a regular basis I have rarely installed a program that did not add something that was not necessary, be it registry keys or temporary files which do not get removed.
Even Microsoft programs and updates do it.
Decide to run a test with one of my Granddaughters Win7 Pro laptops that had become so slow that she would no longer use it.
Installed Restart-Time.vbs & CCleaner
Set a restore point.
Ran Restart 4 times with an average of 108 sec start time.
Ran disk cleanup then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 95 sec start time
Restored to my restore point
Ran Ccleaner system & registry with everything checked then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 63 sec start time
Restored to my restore point
Killed all the startup programs except antivirus then Restart-Time 4 times for an average
of 88 sec start time.
Restored to my restore point
Conduct 3 of the above in exactly the same order as doing the individuals but with no restart between
then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 49 sec start time. 59 seconds knocked off the start time.
Almost a week now, not one issue and she swears it is faster than it was when it was new!
Question for those who say there is no performance gain from cleaning – What would you attribute the 59 second decrease in start time to?
Ron Burnes
Last edited by anaron; 26 May 2012 at 23:39.
Forgive my coming back on this but I have never questioned the reasons of people who are against the use of this type of software or the problems that can be caused by it, in fact I always emphasise extreme caution to anyone using them myself.
It is the black and white attitude that often goes with it that I take issue with.
There are many things that are 'dangerous' (?) in our daily lives, not just dangerous to the wellbeing of our computers but to life itself.
If I knock somebody down in my car or drive it into a wall is the car to blame?
If that did happen would it then be right for me to say that nobody should use a car?
You have to remember we aren't just giving one on one advice that applies to one person and their specific situation. While the original poster is the one we are helping, the posts can be read by thousands, whose individual situations are quite different. Since the possibility is very high using a cleaner can cause damage, it is better to warn against their use, especially since they would rarely actually solve any problems. There are certainly individuals who should never drive a car. A Guy
Pilgrim,
IMHO.
With respect...
It is important for us to always remember that the people we give advice to are not always blessed with the same knowledge / ability & experience we have.
Therefore sometimes it is necessary to err on the side of caution.
Our personal experience is often irrelevant.
BTW, Well said Bill!
Kudo's Bill.
Let me add my voice to those espousing extreme caution.
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