Prefetch and SSDs

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  1. Posts : 541
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #31

    essenbe said:
    Is there a possibility it has something to do with ready boost? Ready boost is part of Superfetch. Most SSD forums recommend to turn off superfetch so there must be a reason.
    What now ? :) Should i disable or should i leave it on ?
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  2. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #32

    I'm with WHS. SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

    Leave it on if it works better for you.
    That is what I'm doing.

    I tried it both ways and it works better with Superfetch on.

    Neither way is wrong. What works best for you is the way to have it.

    Mike
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  3. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #33

    Hopalong X said:
    I'm with WHS. SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

    Leave it on if it works better for you.
    That is what I'm doing.

    I tried it both ways and it works better with Superfetch on.

    Neither way is wrong. What works best for you is the way to have it.

    Mike
    That's what I think. But the Intel toolbox disagrees.
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  4. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #34

    essenbe said:
    That's what I think. But the Intel toolbox disagrees.
    Exactly, and they seem pretty convinced that it should be turned off...I just don't understand why.
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  5. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #35

    pparks1 said:
    essenbe said:
    That's what I think. But the Intel toolbox disagrees.
    Exactly, and they seem pretty convinced that it should be turned off...I just don't understand why.
    I don't either. I've been to their forums and searched, they say turn it off but no explanation of why. I've turned mine back on for now. I want to see how it works out. OCZ forum says the same with no explanation. I've tried it both ways with the vertex2 and saw no difference, but it seems to make a difference with Intel.
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  6. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 x64
       #36

    essenbe said:
    pparks1 said:
    essenbe said:
    That's what I think. But the Intel toolbox disagrees.
    Exactly, and they seem pretty convinced that it should be turned off...I just don't understand why.
    I don't either. I've been to their forums and searched, they say turn it off but no explanation of why. I've turned mine back on for now. I want to see how it works out. OCZ forum says the same with no explanation. I've tried it both ways with the vertex2 and saw no difference, but it seems to make a difference with Intel.
    Intel tool box might not consider how much ram you have, and could just think 4gb as the maximum. Or it has no idea how the user uses his memory. I'd say if you have 8gb+ and don't have much other things for the ram, leave superfetch on whatever intel toolbox says.
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  7. Posts : 1,653
    Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
       #37

    stereo said:
    Should Prefetch be disabled or not ? for SSD owners..
    :)
    I keep Superfetch on. It should work even better with SSDs. Instead of loading frequently used programs from the SSD into memory when you first use them, superfetch will load them in the background at startup - and this pre-loading shouldn't take very long with an SSD. It will be a faster first time load, but then again it may not be that perceptible to you.
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  8. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #38

    According to Overclockers net, an SSD writes in blocks, superfetch loads the memory to ram but writes its logs to the SSD thus writing a whole block. Everytime it detects a change in your patterns, it writes a new log to the same block. The concern seems to be that it is not the size of the writes that will hurt the SSD, because the logs are verry small, but it is the constant writes to the same block. They also say that ram does not write in properly aligned sectors. How much truth is there, I don't know. But I have read on the Intel forums that SSDs write in blocks. If the SSD is set up in 512kb blocks and you write 4kb to it, the SSD will write 0 or 1's to the rest of the block.
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  9. Posts : 1,653
    Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
       #39

    essenbe said:
    According to Overclockers net, an SSD writes in blocks, superfetch loads the memory to ram but writes its logs to the SSD thus writing a whole block. Everytime it detects a change in your patterns, it writes a new log to the same block. The concern seems to be that it is not the size of the writes that will hurt the SSD, because the logs are verry small, but it is the constant writes to the same block. They also say that ram does not write in properly aligned sectors. How much truth is there, I don't know. But I have read on the Intel forums that SSDs write in blocks. If the SSD is set up in 512kb blocks and you write 4kb to it, the SSD will write 0 or 1's to the rest of the block.
    An SSD won't let you write to the same physical block over and over. Wear leveling will prevent that. Windows writes small amounts of data to lots of logs and databases (like the registry for instance). This is no different I think.

    I have had my OS on an SSD for 1 month now with 176 power-on hours and with Superfetch/prefetch on. I also have my browser and photoshop caches on the drive. According to the SMART wear indicator from the drive, I have used .16% of the SSD lifetime. That means I have 50 years left on the SSD! (12 power on years).
    Last edited by GeneO; 10 Jul 2011 at 12:17.
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  10. Posts : 6,349
    Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
       #40

    +1 GeneO

    Spent the last hour plus on the Intel web site.
    From everything I could find on the Intel site including the forum the controller by wear leveling rotates the write blocks.
    Not a worry to me.
    They could be a little more up front with explanations.
    Unfortunately all the SSD makers think everything is top secret.
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