Defrag sets System Protection to 0%

gregrocker · 22 Jan 2014

I just finished a reinstall, had winnowed all of the errors out and was doing the final clean and boot time defrag with Puran.

Afterwards I checked the Admin Event log again and had a bunch of Volmgr and Volsnap errors from the reboot:

Log Name: System
Source: volmgr
Date: 1/22/2014 8:23:44 PM
Event ID: 46
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Conrad-PC
Description:
Crash dump initialization failed!
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="volmgr" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49156">46</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-01-23T01:23:44.465603400Z" />
<EventRecordID>4285</EventRecordID>
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Conrad-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>\Device\HarddiskVolume2</Data>
<Binary>0000000001000000000000002E0004C004100000080000C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>

Log Name: System
Source: volsnap
Date: 1/22/2014 8:22:59 PM
Event ID: 25
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Conrad-PC
Description:
The shadow copies of volume C: were deleted because the shadow copy storage could not grow in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose a shadow copy storage volume that is not being shadow copied.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="volsnap" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49158">25</EventID>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-01-23T01:22:59.583382800Z" />
<EventRecordID>4279</EventRecordID>
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Conrad-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy2</Data>
<Data>C:</Data>
<Binary>000000000200300000000000190006C0060000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>

Did a search and found an issue where System Restore turned off after a defrag with Perfect Disk which also does a boot-time scan: Volsnap - Shadow copies deleted every boot

I checked SysProtection and Restore was still Enabled for C but apportioned Disk Space had gone to zero.

Anyone else heard of this?

whs · 22 Jan 2014

That's indeed not pleasant. Get a SSD (there are many cheap offerings right now) and then you need not do any defrags.

Layback Bear · 22 Jan 2014

I have read where some 3rd party defrag programs will do those kinds of things.
Restore points and shadow copy are corrupted or unusable. Permissions get changed.
Their doesn't seem to be a exact patter of the problems that are caused.
See if you can do a defrag with Windows 7 built in defragger and maybe get lucky and it fixes things.

I'm thinking some of the 3rd party programs aren't keep up with Windows 7 and it's updates.

gregrocker · 22 Jan 2014

I got sold on Puran defragger when a 2 minute startup got traced to fragmented SYstem files, and Carl suggested a boot-time defrag. Puran cut the boot time in half. For several years I've used it without issue. I like the Disk Check it pairs with defrag, and the Intelligent Optimizer option moves most-used files and programs closer to the edge of the disk for faster reads.

However after five years being married to it I'm beginning to wonder if except in such special circumstances Win7 really needs it? I know they set a defragger to boot on schedule with every copy of Win7. CCleaner often finds gigs of schmutz to clean up which sells me on its continued use. But I'm leaving both of those off my new laptop to see if it really makes a difference.

AddRAM · 23 Jan 2014

Ccleaner and windows own defragmenter, that`s all you need.

Layback Bear · 23 Jan 2014

Greg their are many great use to be programs but they just don't keep updated to work with Windows 7.