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ramoine · 15 Jan 2009

Only running 2gig of ram for now , not bad .

hkancyr · 15 Jan 2009

I just put the Nvdia video drivers in to see how they rate. My score went up to 6.0. the strange thing is the HDD score also went up to 6.0??
Freelancer: I saw some extreme computer video that had 4 large SSD's in a RAID 0 and they didn't give any numbers but they alluded to the fact that the transfer rates were incredible. I would say this would be a "money no object" sort of exercise. I am retired and money is an object for me.
Here is the 181.20 score.

relax · 15 Jan 2009

hmm rly need to do somthing about my ram

Forman · 15 Jan 2009

Mine

Too bad with 5.9 being the max score on HDD and RAM. Got 2x 10K RPM Raptors in RAID0

EDIT: I see some of you have over 5.9 on HDD and RAM. How?

For me there is no difference between running the RAM at 667Mhz CL5 and 1050Mhz CL4. I get 5.9 either way.

Draves · 15 Jan 2009

I got a 5.9 overall because of my ram

Specs~
M3a78 Pro Mobo
Phenom 9950 oc to 3.0
2*2gbs ram (forgot what kind but its 1066)
8800GTS 640mb
4*32GB RiData SSD's Raid 0.
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Beta 7000

Okay so my Raid 0 set up reads at about 380 Mb/s and writes at about 250 and I only get a 7.4? Pssh. Show me something faster. Seems a little screwy.

And then a phenom gets a 7.3? Nonsense, it should be lower. There are already 6 core chips out and the i7 is way faster than the phenoms, but my crazy raid setup is what, semi outdated? Grr to that. Its going to take at least a year to build a rig that maxes the new index out. I could always grab two more ssd's and max out my controller

(I'm waiting for am3 and trichannel before I do another big upgrade.)

So what do you think a 7.9 is on the hard drive scale?

Forman · 15 Jan 2009

Draves said:

I got a 5.9 overall because of my ram

Specs~
M3a78 Pro Mobo
Phenom 9950 oc to 3.0
2*2gbs ram (forgot what kind but its 1066)
8800GTS 640mb
4*32GB RiData SSD's Raid 0.
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Beta 7000

Okay so my Raid 0 set up reads at about 380 Mb/s and writes at about 250 and I only get a 7.4? Pssh. Show me something faster. Seems a little screwy.

And then a phenom gets a 7.3? Nonsense, it should be lower. There are already 6 core chips out and the i7 is way faster than the phenoms, but my crazy raid setup is what, semi outdated? Grr to that. Its going to take at least a year to build a rig that maxes the new index out. I could always grab two more ssd's and max out my controller

(I'm waiting for am3 and trichannel before I do another big upgrade.)

So what do you think a 7.9 is on the hard drive scale?

I dont know if windows tests the write performance, but if it does it could explain why you "only" get 7.4
Except from Intels SSD all/most SSD have a problem when it comes to random write.
When doing random write the IOPS falls like a brick. At 4Kb and 8Kb we are talking write speed way below 1MB/s.

When I saw this it became very clear why the Intel is charging $6-700 for their 80GB SSD.
Lets hope OCZ gets their Vertex 2 drives on the market soon. We need some competition. Hopefully their planned launch in late Q1 2009 is on schedule.

darkassain · 15 Jan 2009

Forman said:

I dont know if windows tests the write performance, but if it does it could explain why you "only" get 7.4
Except from Intels SSD all/most SSD have a problem when it comes to random write.
When doing random write the IOPS falls like a brick. At 4Kb and 8Kb we are talking write speed way below 1MB/s.

When I saw this it became very clear why the Intel is charging $6-700 for their 80GB SSD.
Lets hope OCZ gets their Vertex 2 drives on the market soon. We need some competition. Hopefully their planned launch in late Q1 2009 is on schedule.

most ssd's that are for out for the mainstream market use MLC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_cell

intel's (and enterprise class SSD's) use the more expensive but faster SLC

Single-level cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and actually the OCZ's SATAII 64 is a remarkable piece of equipent...
this is a example of how SLC is more efficient and faster than almost anything for the price...

Forman · 15 Jan 2009

darkassain said:

most ssd's that are for out for the mainstream market use MLC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_cell

intel's (and enterprise class SSD's) use the more expensive but faster SLC

Single-level cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know the Intel X25-E uses SLC, but I was talking about the mainstream models. Intel X18-M and X25-M both uses MLC :)

darkassain · 15 Jan 2009

Forman said:

I know the Intel X25-E uses SLC, but I was talking about the mainstream models. Intel X18-M and X25-M both uses MLC :)

i see what you are reffering to...

wow i guess this is the bottleneck

intel sdd x18 and x25 review said:

The SSD's controller manages both the flash memory and the data flow to and from the host. To write 1GB of data, competing SSDs need to write 20 to 40 times that amount of data to actually complete the 1GB write. Data gets written in blocks into both DRAM and the flash memory, and by the time you're done with one operation, you've actually written, in a common example, 32GB of data to change 1GB of data. And the complex process bogs down the movement of data through the SATA II bus controller, too.

With its new SSDs, Intel has changed the write strategy by introducing its write amplification technology. Write amplification is defined as the amount of NAND flash writes performed for a requested amount of data writes from the host computer. Instead of requiring 32 times the write cycles, as in the example above, the multiplier is now only 1.1 (or slightly less, according to Intel) - and the amount of overhead has been dramatically decreased, too.

Intel rates its drives for five years of useful life, assuming up to 20GB of data written each day. The company also rates its drives for 1.2 million hours mean time between failure - a spec that hard drive companies typically release only for their enterprise-class drives (Intel's spec is competitive with enterprise-class hard drives).

Draves · 16 Jan 2009

When Vista came out the 5.9 score was the fastest current hardware at the time of release. What do you think 7.9 compares to that's already out? Also, do you think a hard drive raid would smoke a ssd raid set up?

More questions~any idea what an intel i7 with tipple channel ram rates at?

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