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  1. Posts : 37
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       #11

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Dual/ triple booting like you are now without a system reserved to retain the boot loader is most likely why at this point.
    Just having the boot loader on the C drive will usually slow down start up with a single os and you've got 3 doing it :)
    I have both way with and without a 100mb system reserved and the one with it boots faster which in my system spec's is the Acer verses without a 100mb sr on my asus build.
    Ah I got it!
    I have noticed that I dont have system reserved but can still boot into Safe mode by using F8. Does that mean my boot loader are on C, not on system reserved?
    So is there a way to create the reserved partition without formatting for my triple boot??
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       #12

    Hi,
    None that I know of
    It would need to be created by the first original installer
    Another issue is with already 3 partitions a 4 is not likely possible without formatting the drive as gpt instead of mbr so it can have pretty much unlimited partitions created
    Convert MBR Disk to GPT Disk
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       #13

    Well that maybe an useful way to do now. But if I can format one of the 3 partitions, even on C default, can I fix it?
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       #14

    Hi,
    That I don't know
    I'm guessing on the order these 3 os's were installed
    Original win-7
    Second win-10
    Third another win-7 ?
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    I still dont understand exactly how many OS on the same hard drive use system reserved partition.
    I have an idea. I will use installation disc to boot and delete C location, then create partition again and the installation will require a system reserved part to be created. So do you think is it fine and other OS can use boot loaded?
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       #16

    Hi,
    The system reserved is obviously marked active and is also in front of all other partitions so it is first in line on the drive so it directs to the default os making it faster to boot

    Mixing win-10 into the drive complicates matters a bit because it acts as a alpha and tries to interfere with any other os booting
    So you would need to use win-10 boot options to choose the default os regardless to see any booting performance with or without a system reserved partition
    The size of the system reserved varies win-7 default size if created is 100mb
    This has been said to be too small and about 400mb is a better size

    You can ceate one yourself but since it will not be first on the drive it may not help because the default os will also be marked a active.
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    Hello, thanks for your explanation though it's a little struggle to my mind! @@
    So now can you give me some suggestions, maybe I will accept to format one or all disks. But I hope you will give me more than one solution
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       #18

    Hi,
    You can use free mini tool to create a 4th partition in from of the original installs space = assuming it's your data partition
    Best Free Partition Manager for Windows | MiniTool Partition Free

    Trouble is copying the boot loader to it = I have no idea of what all needs to be copied to it someone else would have to chime in on that process :)

    Windows can't do this
    Creating a 4th partition will trigger windows to suggest formatting the exist drive as dynamic
    I've always read that is a bad thing
    Convert a Basic Disk to a Dynamic Disk

    Mini tool might not do that but will have to move the entire contents the amount of the size of the system reserved 100mb-400mb so data is at risk so make a system image well before attempting anything so you can get the setup back if things go badly :)
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    Thank you ThrashZone, I will read and consider your suggestion.
    And I have a question. If I delete my C part (which is the primary part) and create a new part, the installation (win 10) will create a 400mb SysResv part, this part just works for only OS on primary part?
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       #20

    Hi,
    That is the easiest way to insure a system reserved partition is create by having a smaller partition created ahead of time that does not span the entire drive.
    Not sure how you managed to not have one quite frankly ?

    If you originally had win-7 and no other partitions beside the one spanning the entire drive no system reserved would be created which is ideal for boot to a drive with one os.
    Installing another os on a created partition will usually automatically create a system reserved to help it boot to either os so that is a mystery why it was not created :)

    We usually are doing things the opposite way
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