Win 7 picks its own random update times / wakes up

I have Win7 64 bit on a laptop. It has the annoying habit of waking up (and literally waking me up) usually around 4:20 a.m. It could be waking from something else - in fact I disable the capability of the modem to awaken the computer from sleep.

Regardless, I had changed the Windows updates time to 6 pm every day and the PC was on all yesterday evening so it should have pulled down any updates then.

But instead, it decided to wake up by itself and check for updates at 6:35 am today.

Anyone have any ideas why it would do this?

timber said:

I have Win7 64 bit on a laptop. It has the annoying habit of waking up (and literally waking me up) usually around 4:20 a.m. It could be waking from something else - in fact I disable the capability of the modem to awaken the computer from sleep.

Regardless, I had changed the Windows updates time to 6 pm every day and the PC was on all yesterday evening so it should have pulled down any updates then.

But instead, it decided to wake up by itself and check for updates at 6:35 am today.

Anyone have any ideas why it would do this?

Hi timber

could be a bunch of things. can you go into event viewer (type event vwr in search) go to the windows log>application tab. look for errors around the time when the machine came to life(errors have red in the left column) see if anything kicks off then, or dies then. If you find something (there is a lot of data) note the event ID and source code and let us know what they are.

Let us know if you need help with that

Kenn J++

Thanks for the input. Since it is my wife's PC, I would rather have everything automated than have to manage manual updates for her.

Fundamentally, it seems that something is wrong if it wakes up at 6:30 a.m. daily to do an update that I have scheduled for 6 pm weekly - so that is what I really would like to solve for.

If I can't solve for that I may have to go to manual updates, but would rather not.

zigzag3143 said:

Hi timber

could be a bunch of things. can you go into event viewer (type event vwr in search) go to the windows log>application tab. look for errors around the time when the machine came to life(errors have red in the left column) see if anything kicks off then, or dies then. If you find something (there is a lot of data) note the event ID and source code and let us know what they are.

Let us know if you need help with that

Kenn J++

I will check this out - I don't have access to the machine at the moment but will post back a reply based on this.

Thanks everyone!

There is a critical error related to "Kernel Power". I am trying to get the details but the PC is having trouble running at the moment, even in safe mode. It is event 41 (I think). I need to see if I can get the Event Viewer screen back up.

torrentg said:

If it's at 4:20 then it's telling you it wants to party.

Set WU to never automatically update and do it yourself once a month or so.

Windows Update Settings - Change

lol, I was gonna post something similar, but you nailed it, it is 420 am your pc wants to celebrate! I'd say go with it.. :)

OK - here is more detail from the latest crash and one other early morning crash:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 11/29/2009 7:29:18 AM
Event ID: 41
Task Category: (63)
Level: Critical
Keywords: (2)
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Lisa-PC
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>63</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-11-29T15:29:18.267215400Z" />
<EventRecordID>10586</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Lisa-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BugcheckCode">0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="SleepInProgress">true</Data>
<Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">129039821168615063</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

===============================================================================

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 11/26/2009 4:31:21 AM
Event ID: 41
Task Category: (63)
Level: Critical
Keywords: (2)
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Lisa-PC
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>63</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-11-26T12:31:21.470015800Z" />
<EventRecordID>9318</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Lisa-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BugcheckCode">234</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0xfffffa80059e3620</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="SleepInProgress">true</Data>
<Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

You can check this thread for possible ways to alleviate the hardware error.

Could be that something has just plain out failed and needs replacement, like the motherboard or capacitors on it.

https://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...-what-try.html