75 percentage of 4 gb Ram when I just browse and hear a song why

jraju · 02 Oct 2022

I ran minitool box software and just hearing a song in firefox engine.
The memory used is shown in 75 percent used.
When I just click task manager and click performance tab and then click resource monitor and then clicking memory tab.
Most processes said to be firefox
How this happens. I hear a song in youtube and did not download anything.
I am clueless about how it would show that much physical memory used for this

Megahertz07 · 02 Oct 2022

With only 4G of memory you should have used Win 7 32 bits.
It is normal that Win 7 64 bits use as much as 2.5G
It is also normal that Firefox use 1 G (it depends on how much tabs are open)

jraju · 03 Oct 2022

Hi, Thanks . But my motherboard supports only 4gb . Otherwise, i could just buy a 4 gb ram.
My query is I have opened only 2 browser tabs.
One is youtube video song and other is normal opening of the tab with no search results etc.
I was amazed at the resource monitor showing firefox incidents showing the maximum utilisation of memory.
If I download or opening too much tabs i could understand my memory utilisation showing 75 as normal. But for the activities , I described the memory usage appear abnormal . So, I ask.

Megahertz07 · 03 Oct 2022

If you want to improve performance on your computer:
- Do a Win 7 32 bits Clean install
- Open MSconfig and disable Startup programs. Disable some non MS services.

MisterEd · 03 Oct 2022

Megahertz07 said:

If you want to improve performance on your computer:
- Do a Win 7 32 bits Clean install
- Open MSconfig and disable Startup programs. Disable some non MS services.

That will probably help some but will not solve the problem. The problem mainly is with Firefox which uses a lot of memory.

I have a laptop with Windows 7 Pro and 4GB RAM. It uses 1.5GB RAM just idling. With Firefox open to the Google home page it uses about 2-2.5GB RAM. If I play a music video on YouTube it sometimes uses over 3GB RAM.

Maybe someone can suggest a different web browser for the OP that doesn't use as much memory.

For the OP,

Realistically, you should probably consider a different computer with at least 8GB RAM. If the computer is new it would have Windows 10 or 11. If the you want to use Windows 7 then it would have to be a used or refurbished computer.

BTW, it may be heresy on this forum for anybody to suggest Windows 10. I have a number of computers with several operating systems including Windows XP, 7, and 10. For me Windows 10 is the easiest to use. The only negative thing for Windows 10 is home networking which is problematic compared to Windows 7. However, I have workarounds which overcomes that problem.

F22 Simpilot · 04 Oct 2022

Are you using Firefox 64 bit or 32 bit?

If 64 bit, try 32 bit. Directory Listing: /pub/firefox/releases/105.0/win32/ The EN folder is English. US: United States, GB: Great Britain CA: Canada.

Alternatively, and as a test, download portable Firefox. There's no installer, it's portable or as they say "stand alone." If in portable Firefox you don't have the same memory consumption, then we can assume it's Firefox 64 (if that's what you have installed). Mozilla Firefox, Portable (browser) | PortableApps.com

Edit- It appears the portable version auto selects 32 or 64 bit mode. To force 32 bit mode do the following:

In the portable version of Firefox go to the other/source folder path. Find the file FirefoxPortable.ini in the source folder. Copy this file to the main folder of Firefox where there are only the App and Data folders along with the FirefoxPortable.exe file and a help.html file. Now open the newly copied over FirefoxPortable.ini with a text editor (double clicking should open by default) and add or edit the following values:

Code:

DisableSplashScreen=true
AllowMultipleInstances=true
AlwaysUse32Bit=true

More Info. on these values are in the Readme file in the Source folder. Note: It seems caps matters. DisableSplashScreen.

What extensions do you have? That too will eat up memory.

Unfortunately, there's little in the way of curtailing this Firefox behavior. I've looked and there are some minor config Prefs that can be changed to help but I doubt it'll be very significant.

The heck of it is, I maxed out my parent's Dell Optiplex with 4GB of memory and they use Firefox and I never saw an issue that I know of. I can prove it, too. While in this day and age 4GB seems mediocre, it's a good amount, trust me (or don't trust me. I don't care) Lets put it this way. There are many manufactures of small form computers like the Intel NUC just as an example so you might know what type of hardware I'm referring to. Well, many of these, especially the older mini PCs only use 4GB of memory. And believe me when I tell you there are many people that use these machines as their everyday driver. Probably with the aforementioned Firefox.

Lets look at something else. Most motherboards now-a-days support at least a max of 32 GB of memory. While that may sound nice, I have yet to run a game that needs anything close to that. I currently use 16 GB and never had an issue. Why anyone thinks they need more than that I don't know. Just like having a 1000 watt PSU! LOL! It's understandable that there is a need for it, but most people aren't the market for that. I can assure you the Photoshop/video editing market is no where near the gaming market... In this sense you only need 16 GB of memory currently if you game. Even if you stream to Twitch with your game play and whatnot I doubt you'd need more than 16GB. I've ran OBS Studio while playing GTA V for example. Again, I only have 16 GB of RAM.

Anyway,

1) Check if you're running a 64 bit version of Firefox instead of a 32 bit version due to your RAM limitations.

2) Keep your extensions in check.

3) You can try Firefox safe mode to temp turn off all extensions and whatnot just for testing. Just don't commit the changes per the pop up option you'll see. To run Firefox in safe mode press and hold the Shift key and launch Firefox while holding the Shift key.

Addendum:

Firefox portable should in no way be considered a private means to browse the Internet on someone else's computer. It WILL splatter data on the hard drive beyond your USB drive or what ever drive you use to launch Firefox portable. Well, if run in a live environment and the hard drive is disconnected that's different... Think TAILS et al. And by this, Tor is NOT a secure network. Only for some anonymity with a configured Tor bridge. Anyone can create an exit node... anyone can read the logs of that exit node. The FBI, NSA and God knows who has their mitts in Tor. Believe me (or don't LOL). You'll wanna learn about IPFS...

jraju · 04 Oct 2022

Hi, I do not know if i could increase the memory to 8 gb.
The firefox trick , I will try.
Can change to chrome browser would solve the problem.
please tell.
Is there any website to test, max capacity of the memory that i could use for my pc?
Presently I am using 2x2 gb sticks to 4 gb memory.
speccy details:
Memory slots
Total memory slots 4
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 2
Memory
Type DDR2
Size 4096 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 398.9 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 6 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 6 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 6 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 44 %
Total Physical 3.00 GB
Available Physical 1.66 GB
Total Virtual 6.00 GB
Available Virtual 4.06 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Slot #2
I do not know, if my mother board supports more than 4 gb
speccy mother board details
Memory slots
Total memory slots 4
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 2
Memory
Type DDR2
Size 4096 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 398.9 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 6 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 6 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 6 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 44 %
Total Physical 3.00 GB
Available Physical 1.66 GB
Total Virtual 6.00 GB
Available Virtual 4.06 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Slot #2
Please give me the solution. will try firefox 32 tweak

F22 Simpilot · 04 Oct 2022

Go to the Start orb and in search enter dxdiag. Save the system Info. and upload that txt file here please.

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jraju · 04 Oct 2022

Hi, I enclose the dxdiag information Simpilot,

Previously I used this site for knowing the max mem capacity.
But somehow, I could not get the results, as some error pops up
Crucial System Scanner | Memory Upgrade Scanner | Crucial | Crucial.com

Fox Computers · 07 Oct 2022

Hello,

Instead of playing music in the background off YouTube.com, which also means playing a video, use "Invidious.io" (A website which is an alternative frontend for YouTube) and press the "Audio Mode" button (Pictured below). No need to download anything for this. This mode only plays the audio from any YouTube video and means you do not have to use unnecessary system resources/mobile data playing the music video.

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Alternatively, there are browser extensions which do the same thing, so you can experiment with those too. Just make sure whichever ones you try are "actively monitored" by Mozilla (Makers of Firefox), this will ensure you do not download a malicious extension. If they are not actively monitored, you will see the warning:

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Any questions just let me know.

Best wishes
Fox Computers

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