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Windows 7: Win 7 64 RAM filling up. Memory leak outside windows?

10 Apr 2010   #31
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey View Post
I don't think it requires any particular "authority" to confirm that memory usage is actually reaching 4GB when the system becomes unresponsive as quickly and as permanently as it has been.
I meant what was the source of your information re: memory usage. When it's starting to really fill up -- getting close to the limit of your physical memory, do you notice virtual allocation increase? Seems odd that you're not starting to swap first. Also, keep task manager running in the tray by selecting Options menu, Hide when minimized. Then click Show processes from all users on the Processes tab and add the Peak Working Set and Working Set Delta columns from under the View menu, Select columns. Let it run that way. Working Set Delta will constantly grow for the leaking process.


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15 Apr 2010   #32
jemcgarvey

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

It happened again randomly, after I thought it was gone. This time the movie file (12GB) actually played, and seek was very responsive, considering that other programs were slow due to full RAM.
After closing the movie file, this memory level remained, and nothing reduced it until I opened the same file again. While the same file was playing the second time, it looked like this:


Working set delta was zero for every process, with slight excursions positive and negative for things like MOM, svchost, etc.
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16 Apr 2010   #33
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey View Post
It happened again randomly, after I thought it was gone. This time the movie file (12GB) actually played, and seek was very responsive, considering that other programs were slow due to full RAM.
After closing the movie file, this memory level remained, and nothing reduced it until I opened the same file again. While the same file was playing the second time, it looked like this:


Working set delta was zero for every process, with slight excursions positive and negative for things like MOM, svchost, etc.
It's Z player from the look of it. 7 "hides" some details due to protected path. Processes loading that are exempt from primary or secondary debugging info so memory issues are hidden. I suspect a codec but to be sure try a different player with the same movie.
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16 Apr 2010   #34
timeless

Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

cant help but add problem to this thread T_T, lm currently using 2.3GB of my 3GB of ram, system uptime was about 12hours and l was only using a comfortable 37% of my ram, however after watching a few hours of video files through Media Player Classic (which was with CCCP, tried k-lite codecs but they didnt work out well) lm using about 60/70% of ram..

l do notice that BitDefender is using a reasonable bit (plan to let licence run out before l try other software) however lve tweaked it a little and turned off the search indexing service as well, lm wondering if there are any other tweaks l could do to lower ram usage at least until l get extra ram, tho as l said above ram usage goes up allot when l watch video files and never really drops after that. (tho firefox is taking a reasonable chunk of memory as well )
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16 Apr 2010   #35
dood

Win7/XP
 
 

Try using MPCHC....
It works like a charm. I've never had any issues with it on a Win 7 x64 box that I have hooked up to a 52' sharp TV.
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16 Apr 2010   #36
timeless

Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

thats what l use ^_^, tho lve been looking up tools to see if l can improve performance in the short term before l expand upon my ram..

looks like l can use this in the short term, lm pretty sure l can spare a lil cash for a thumb drive, gunna see if l can get a 4gb one until l gram enough ram
Windows 7 features - ReadyBoost - Microsoft Windows
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16 Apr 2010   #37
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey View Post
I am getting the same issue again, this time with the same windows version on an entirely new rig. It happens whenever I open an .mkv whether 700mb or 15GB, with zoomplayer and wmp.
No kidding... There are a lot of really bad MKV codecs out there.

Switch over to Media Player Classic - Home Cinema - Video Player Problem solved...

MKV at 1080p ac3 5.1 on an Intel Atom / Nvidia ION machine... 8% cpu usage and less than 10mb memory usage.

MPC has all the codecs built right in, so you can remove the ones you no longer need... and since it will play just about anything you throw at it, you can also remove WMP totally from your system.
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16 Apr 2010   #38
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Please note that Win 7 overall does use RAM very efficiently. These problems appear to be isolated to MKV and/or player/codecs files in general and therefore not windows memory usage as the prime suspect.

Look at using different video file formats to see if the problem continues. Then look at the player itself.
I have not experienced these problems myself as I do not watch MKV files.

This has nothing to do with fanboism, only trying to point where the actual problem is and not where it isn't.
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16 Apr 2010   #39
timeless

Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

so far lve noticed it with both AVIs and MKVs on my system, however lve messed around with the settings a little, tweaked bitdefender to use less ram, and admittedly turned off search indexing and superfetch (at least for the time being, rather than have it off permanently l just wanna see the impact on the ram over a weeks worth of usage etc,)
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17 Apr 2010   #40
jemcgarvey

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey View Post
I am getting the same issue again, this time with the same windows version on an entirely new rig. It happens whenever I open an .mkv whether 700mb or 15GB, with zoomplayer and wmp.
No kidding... There are a lot of really bad MKV codecs out there.

Switch over to Media Player Classic - Home Cinema - Video Player Problem solved...

MKV at 1080p ac3 5.1 on an Intel Atom / Nvidia ION machine... 8% cpu usage and less than 10mb memory usage.

MPC has all the codecs built right in, so you can remove the ones you no longer need... and since it will play just about anything you throw at it, you can also remove WMP totally from your system.
Problem not solved, that would not change the codecs at all. I use CoreAVC Pro which is the premium matroska filter bar none, and MPC would use the same one or a lesser one. Zoom player is "the culprit" only in the sense that the problem happens when it's open, but it contains no filter of it's own.

I know it's a matroska issue, but it's been working now for another week, but I'll keep tabs on it.
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