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Windows 7: Checking CPU Temp

09 Jan 2010   #11
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
I would say its plausible, YES. I would guess you would need to set the HS, and start the bolts thru and so as to align them before bolting the MOBO into the case though.
I just went ahead and glued mine to the board.

Ive only dealt with after market HS that have a bolt on arm on each side that hold the push pins.
The entire arm can be removed and replaced with the bolt-thru type arms, for use with a bolt through kit. (which is held in place with a single screw at the base)
Which is fairly simple.

if you mean removing the pins from something like the stock HS, I truly do not know, sorry. Im not even sure if its possible.
Next time I do a build I will look into other fan options. Thanks


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09 Jan 2010   #12
Cato

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IggyAZ View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
I would say its plausible, YES. I would guess you would need to set the HS, and start the bolts thru and so as to align them before bolting the MOBO into the case though.
I just went ahead and glued mine to the board.

Ive only dealt with after market HS that have a bolt on arm on each side that hold the push pins.
The entire arm can be removed and replaced with the bolt-thru type arms, for use with a bolt through kit. (which is held in place with a single screw at the base)
Which is fairly simple.

if you mean removing the pins from something like the stock HS, I truly do not know, sorry. Im not even sure if its possible.
Next time I do a build I will look into other fan options. Thanks
Iggy, do you mean remove the pins from the heatsink itself or removing them from thne mobo as in changing heatsinks? I've swapped push pin heatsinks and a couple of motherboards and CPU's with push pins and never had a problem with removing them. Also, I've never had a problem installing them. I'm not particularly fond of them and I've considered the bolt ons, but I really hate to have to take out the mobo to do it.

I love to tinker, but removing mobo's usually means a 3-4 hour job for me.
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09 Jan 2010   #13
Cato

 

I just discovered something last week that may be common knowledge to you folks. I have a couple of CPU speed programs that, obviously, tests the speed of your CPU. I've overclocked my Q9550 a bit and have been using Real Temp for quite a long while. My CPU was showing a speed of 3612 MHz which satisfied me as BIOS was showing 3.6 GHz.

Several days ago when I didn't have Real Temp running I checked the CPU again and it showed 3719 MHz. I used another program and it showed the same. I used the other program with Real Temp running and it showed 3612 MHz, same as the other one.

I don't know why the slight drop with Real Temp, as SpeedFan shows the higher number each time.

Any ideas, or is this a common thing?
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10 Jan 2010   #14
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cato View Post
I just discovered something last week that may be common knowledge to you folks. I have a couple of CPU speed programs that, obviously, tests the speed of your CPU. I've overclocked my Q9550 a bit and have been using Real Temp for quite a long while. My CPU was showing a speed of 3612 MHz which satisfied me as BIOS was showing 3.6 GHz.

Several days ago when I didn't have Real Temp running I checked the CPU again and it showed 3719 MHz. I used another program and it showed the same. I used the other program with Real Temp running and it showed 3612 MHz, same as the other one.

I don't know why the slight drop with Real Temp, as SpeedFan shows the higher number each time.

Any ideas, or is this a common thing?
I'm not an expert with OC but I did see that my BIOS has a setting that throttles down my speed to 2 gig when not working and back up to 2.7 gig when needed. I think it is called Enhanced Itel SpeedStep. I have my Enabled in BIOS. If you always want Max speed it should be Disabaled in BIOS.
I just checked your MB and I think it is called...


CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) (Note)
Enables or disables Intel CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) function, a CPU power-saving function in system halt state. When enabled, the CPU core frequency and voltage will be reduced during system halt state to decrease power consumption. (Default: Enabled)

Also it is set by default to Enabled.
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10 Jan 2010   #15
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cato View Post
I've overclocked my Q9550 a bit 3.6 GHz.
Several days ago when I checked the CPU again and it showed 3719 MHz.
OVERCLOCKING a bit... WOW! How many fans do you have to cool that Q9950 Quad?
I think if you put your system in the refigerator you could get 4Gz out of it.
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10 Jan 2010   #16
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Cato View Post
I just discovered something last week that may be common knowledge to you folks. I have a couple of CPU speed programs that, obviously, tests the speed of your CPU. I've overclocked my Q9550 a bit and have been using Real Temp for quite a long while. My CPU was showing a speed of 3612 MHz which satisfied me as BIOS was showing 3.6 GHz.

Several days ago when I didn't have Real Temp running I checked the CPU again and it showed 3719 MHz. I used another program and it showed the same. I used the other program with Real Temp running and it showed 3612 MHz, same as the other one.

I don't know why the slight drop with Real Temp, as SpeedFan shows the higher number each time.

Any ideas, or is this a common thing?
Showing different clocks in different programs?

If i were you, i would look at what the Bios has to say and see if it matched CPUZ.
Bios tend to be more accurate than software.
If they match, I would say its just a error in the other programs.

What speed does it say in the Win. assesment screen?
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10 Jan 2010   #17
Cato

 

I think it's just a read error in Real Temp. BIOS, CPU-Z, siw and Windows all say it's 3.6 GHz. Temps read the same in all programs so the may reason I use it is still valid. I just thought it was strange to see the difference.
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10 Jan 2010   #18
Cato

 

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I'm not an expert with OC but I did see that my BIOS has a setting that throttles down my speed to 2 gig when not working and back up to 2.7 gig when needed. I think it is called Enhanced Itel SpeedStep. I have my Enabled in BIOS. If you always want Max speed it should be Disabaled in BIOS.
I just checked your MB and I think it is called...


CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) (Note)
Enables or disables Intel CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) function, a CPU power-saving function in system halt state. When enabled, the CPU core frequency and voltage will be reduced during system halt state to decrease power consumption. (Default: Enabled)

Also it is set by default to Enabled.
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I do have it disabled. The only way I can tell is if it's enabled CPU-Z will show a slower clock speed when there is little activity and when it's disabled the max speed shows all the time.

I've seen pros and cons for each side of disabling or enabling, but prefer at this time to keep it disabled.

I'm not a real big fan of OC'ing, but with the versatile Q9550 and the Gigabyte mobo I just had to try it. Probably will go back to stock in the near future. I can't really see that much difference, anyhow, but I tend to think slow.
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10 Jan 2010   #19
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

I'm done here. My CPU temps are all inrange now and actually running much cooler than before. You can also see how my CPU is trottled back to 1.999 Khz when not needed.


Thanks all.
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10 Jan 2010   #20
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Mild OC, leaving EIST and C1E enable is a good thing IMO.

I only disable it when seeing what the board will do and chsing those high clocks.

After Im done playing, I find a nice 24/7 OC a re-enable them both.
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