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Windows 7: Checking CPU Temp

09 Jan 2010   #1
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 
Checking CPU Temp

Many of us take it for granted that all is well in our computers that we have built.
Today someone mentioned a program called Speccy to identify hardware in your system. (I personally use Belarc Advisor) Well I downloaded it and started looking at my internal CPU temps.
Hummm they seem to be a little high.
CPU 0% idle was 42c
CPU loaded to 75% 61c

Well I decided to do a little checking and removed the CPU heatsink & fan and noticed that only 3 of the 4 clips were properly mounted to the MB.
My fault on build. Too much in a rush.

Long story short. Removed, cleaned and re-installed with new paste and mounted correctly to MB.
Final Results
CPU 0% idle was 30c
CPU loaded to 75% 43c

Checkout the difference temperatures between the two programs.
CoreTemp2 and Speccy


Which one do you use or like?


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09 Jan 2010   #2
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Iggy:

I'm surprised that you could operate that long with one clip bad! I'd have thought temps would have been very high instead of only a few degrees. I guess that shows that modern CPUs usually have a lot of headroom before they throttle.

I am a bit suspicious of all of these monitoring programs. You'd assume both Speccy and Coretemp would be reading from the same source and would simply report what they saw in the BIOS.

I have both Coretemp and HWMonitor on my PC. Just for kicks, I just ran Orthos to stress test my PC to see how both of those apps would track the rising temps. They both read 36 when I started Orthos and both got as high as 54. Coretemp seemed to display the rising temp a few seconds before HWMonitor did, but they never differed by more than 1 degree.

I'm keeping HWMonitor because it also displays HD temperatures, but I can't find a simple program that also monitors motherboard temps. Intel Desktop Utilities does that, but there is no Win 7 version yet.
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09 Jan 2010   #3
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Had similar issue in past.

This is why anymore I always advise to trash the stock push pin HS, pick up a decent aftermarket with a Bolt on kit. only $6 or so for the bolt kits,and sooo much better and easier lot less headache IMO


As far as temp programs, I use my guardian that came with my DFI board.
Also liked REAL TEMP for Intels
but my onboard is just as accurate, and shows basically everything else .. (chipset, PWM area, voltages etc) so I just use it.
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09 Jan 2010   #4
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Wishmaster:

Any particular bolt on kit you recommend and are they generally usable with any heatsink that is appropriate for that motherboard?

Can they be removed and transferred to another board? I thought I read that they used adhesive?

The guy who came up with the 4 pin Intel system should be tied to an anthill.
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09 Jan 2010   #5
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

HAHA I agree.

Something like:
Newegg.com - XIGMATEK ACK-I7363 CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

Theres other types, and other brands obviosly, but only familiar w/Xigmatek brand myself.

I think once you set it on the MOBO it needs to stay. At least thats how mine seems. I could be wrong, but it looks to me as if trying to remove it will just ruin it/or dmg the MOBO possibly.

I dont think they will not fit the stock HSinks. they should however be compatable with any heatsink that has the little bolt on arms.(even for the push pin adapters)
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09 Jan 2010   #6
FZ21Z

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I've been using Everest Ultimate to monitor my CPU & GPU since cleaning my lappy and applying Arctic Silver 5. Are the other two better?
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09 Jan 2010   #7
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

I believe I read that some of those bolt on kits include some type of tape that protects the adhesive--like on a bandaid. If you simply don't remove the protective tape, you can then easily transfer the kit to another board because you haven't used the adhesive.

Sound plausible?

I looked at a free version of Everest a few days ago. It provided all kinds of info I didn't need and that I can get from other programs.

For simple temp monitoring, it isn't any better. Coretemp and HWMonitor are just a single screen.

Here is HWMonitor:


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09 Jan 2010   #8
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Wishmaster:

How much of an ordeal is it to remove the Intel push pins? That's one of the things i heard can be annoying.

2 minutes?

20 minutes and a lot of swearing?

Prybar and hammer?
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09 Jan 2010   #9
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I would say its plausible, YES. I would guess you would need to set the HS, and start the bolts thru and so as to align them before bolting the MOBO into the case though.
I just went ahead and glued mine to the board.



Ive only dealt with after market HS that have a bolt on arm on each side that hold the push pins.
The entire arm can be removed and replaced with the bolt-thru type arms, for use with a bolt through kit. (which is held in place with a single screw at the base)
Which is fairly simple.

if you mean removing the pins from something like the stock HS, I truly do not know, sorry. Im not even sure if its possible.
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09 Jan 2010   #10
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Iggy:

I'm surprised that you could operate that long with one clip bad! I'd have thought temps would have been very high instead of only a few degrees. I guess that shows that modern CPUs usually have a lot of headroom before they throttle.

I am a bit suspicious of all of these monitoring programs. You'd assume both Speccy and Coretemp would be reading from the same source and would simply report what they saw in the BIOS.

I have both Coretemp and HWMonitor on my PC. Just for kicks, I just ran Orthos to stress test my PC to see how both of those apps would track the rising temps. They both read 36 when I started Orthos and both got as high as 54. Coretemp seemed to display the rising temp a few seconds before HWMonitor did, but they never differed by more than 1 degree.

I'm keeping HWMonitor because it also displays HD temperatures, but I can't find a simple program that also monitors motherboard temps. Intel Desktop Utilities does that, but there is no Win 7 version yet.
The CPU temp was running up around 61c which is about 140 degrees and now it runs about 32c which is about 88 degrees . I conside that substatial change.

Anyway the point was that I needed to look closer next time especially if I had higher than normal temps. My E6750 max temp is 95c which is way up there.

In reguards to the different program temps I have no answer why such a difference. It's just a reference point and the software may read that digital signal differently. No loss.

Anyway I'm presently running 32c most of the time.
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