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Windows 7: Quieting Windows 7 down....

18 Mar 2010   #41
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Hi Carl, what's your take on the ready boot and super fetch? Have you given those two the axe yet?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Greg, I have that same sequence. There are several services that are automatic - delayed start. I think that is what is going on; these services are starting.



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18 Mar 2010   #42
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

No I haven't. I will play around with those this weekend.
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18 Mar 2010   #43
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
No I haven't. I will play around with those this weekend.
Keep me informed, I still have a test image with certain services and such disabled. So far the ones disabled have not presented any side effects and to be honest, it runs smoother. I'm really curious about the WMI as mentioned somewhere in this topic. I may have to load the image up this weekend and try some more things.
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19 Mar 2010   #44
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Still slogging away at this...

I came across some information that may be relevent...

According to several sources on the net (reliability challenges acknowledged!) on some motherboards the Disk Drive LED will flash once a second, regular as clockwork, without disk i/o taking place. Since the SATA interface does not have a hardware signal for disk insertion the system has to poll the Optical drives to catch changes and launch the Shell Hardware Detection's autoplay feature. Apparently some early SATA motherboards see this as access and will turn on the chassis LED when polled, even if there is no disk in the drive.

So, since I have an older ASUS board I thought I'd put this to the test... Device Manager, DVD/CD roms... Right click on the drive and disable it... The flashing stopped... Ok re-enable the drive flash, flash, flash... Repeat this several times and guess what... it is repeatable...

It would be interesting to see if this works for anyone else who has this problem...

This obviously doesn't fix the problem... I'm not about to leave my Burner disabled... but at least now I know it's mostly harmless.

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I also found this one and tested it... this too is repeatable...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\reliability
set TimeStampInterval to 0

This stops it from writing lastalive1.dat and lastalive0.dat every second.

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Ok, so now I know two of the reasons for a heartbeat from that led... now to cut down the rest of the drive thrashing....
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19 Mar 2010   #45
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Still slogging away at this...

I came across some information that may be relevent...

According to several sources on the net (reliability challenges acknowledged!) on some motherboards the Disk Drive LED will flash once a second, regular as clockwork, without disk i/o taking place. Since the SATA interface does not have a hardware signal for disk insertion the system has to poll the Optical drives to catch changes and launch the Shell Hardware Detection's autoplay feature. Apparently some early SATA motherboards see this as access and will turn on the chassis LED when polled, even if there is no disk in the drive.

So, since I have an older ASUS board I thought I'd put this to the test... Device Manager, DVD/CD roms... Right click on the drive and disable it... The flashing stopped... Ok re-enable the drive flash, flash, flash... Repeat this several times and guess what... it is repeatable...

It would be interesting to see if this works for anyone else who has this problem...

This obviously doesn't fix the problem... I'm not about to leave my Burner disabled... but at least now I know it's mostly harmless.

==========

I also found this one and tested it... this too is repeatable...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\reliability
set TimeStampInterval to 0

This stops it from writing lastalive1.dat and lastalive0.dat every second.

===========

Ok, so now I know two of the reasons for a heartbeat from that led... now to cut down the rest of the drive thrashing....
I just tested your first scenario on my older AUS board. My results are the same as yours. I have not yet tried your second scenario. However, my HD does spin down.
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19 Mar 2010   #46
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Ok, so now I know two of the reasons for a heartbeat from that led... now to cut down the rest of the drive thrashing....
I just tested your first scenario on my older AUS board. My results are the same as yours. I have not yet tried your second scenario. However, my HD does spin down.
Thank you Carl... much appreciated.

I haven't had the chance to let this one sit for half an hour and see what the HD does with the TimeStamps turned off yet... but Resource Monitor shows no disk activity for sometimes 5 and 10 minutes with that off.

What a relief to finally find some answers!
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19 Mar 2010   #47
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Update.... With the timestamping stopped my main system now goes into standby (mode S3) and wakes up for keyboard, mouse or network... as it should.

Still don't know if the drive spins down through... Those Western Digital drives are plenty quiet and it's a bit hard to tell.

Of course I'm still interested in any other suggestions for calming these things down... there's still a fair bit of disk activity when the machine is just sitting there...
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19 Mar 2010   #48
JimLewandowski

 
 

To check if drive is spun down, start browsing/navigating through some likely UNtouched folders (i.e. NOT in W7 cache) and if there's a 7-8 second pause at some points, your drive was spun down and has just spun back up.
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19 Mar 2010   #49
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JimLewandowski View Post
To check if drive is spun down, start browsing/navigating through some likely UNtouched folders (i.e. NOT in W7 cache) and if there's a 7-8 second pause at some points, your drive was spun down and has just spun back up.
LOL... yep, that's one way.

I heard it spin up (it makes this little whining sound for about a second) when I sat down to check in here, so it's spun down at least once so far. The main system also goes into standby now...

The Timestamp thing stopped the ASRock's drive LED from flashing in heartbeat fashion but it's been busy with a couple of movies so I've had no chance to check if it goes into standby.

There's still a fair bit of drive activity on both machines. So, I suppose I should check the task scheduler and see what I can stop...

I've already decided to put XP back in the netbook. Win7's a pretty tight fit and I would like to have one XP machine left for testing stuff... so that problem's solved.

Gaining on it... slowly...

I just wish Microsoft had given this some thought before leaving hundreds of us puzzling over this stuff.
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20 Mar 2010   #50
Seven Eleven

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

7 is constantly optimizing, caching, defraging etc while it is idle. one of the reasons why it is so fast.
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