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Windows 7: Hot weather overloading my fan.

06 Jun 2010   #51
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tousdae View Post
Alright, thanks again ... to you and Monk ... for your help :)


You're welcome!


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06 Jun 2010   #52
HMonk

Dual boot XP Pro SP3x86 and Win7 Pro x64
 
 

I whole heartedly agree with the Kid. The one review that I passed along did mention the noise so I can only assume that is what you are hearing. But, the bottom line is indeed, the temps: if they stay were they are, I too, think you are OK.

Glad to add my $0.04 worth (inflation) anytime.

Monk
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07 Jun 2010   #53
Tousdae

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

lol, thanks Monk. Maybe only $.04 to you, but very valuable to me!

See ya guys again, when I have some other issue to ask advice about.

Ciao!
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11 Jun 2010   #54
HQuest

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 | OSX Lion 10.7 x64
 
 

"Old" thread but that may help. If your computer case (where all the stuff except monitor and keyboard/mouse) sits in a too closed, few air flow space, then your fans will keep blowing hot air to inside your computer, which will make the entire system hotter than what it should be.

Either ATi (HD4000 series or higher) or NVidia (9000 series or higher) video cards have internal features to "downclock" themselves when idle, making them run slower than when we are gaming or using any 3D resource -- while Aero has some 3D features, it doesn't count as a 3D resource for idling detection, which means video card will be idle state while in desktop. Unless something is misconfigured on the ATi/AMD Catalyst Control Center or in NVidia Control Panel, they should run very, very cold -- usually ambient temps. To give you an example, my ATi 4850 GPU, when in desktop, has its fan completely shut down -- 0 RPM. When gaming, it tops 70C. That's the standard for it.

For the CPU, it's almost the same. If it is idle, then the power savings should take care of downclocking the processor to lower states, which also should make it run colder. I'm unsure if your motherboard does allows CPU fan to be shut down when not in use, I know a couple motherboard makers which implement this feature. There are some apps to control this behavior (SpeedFan is one I used and loved): they can adjust CPU fan speeds against CPU temp readings. The "hotter" the CPU goes, the faster the CPU fan spins. And the opposite, too: The colder the CPU goes, the slower CPU fan spins, until it is shut down.

There may be another fan on the motherboard, over the chipset. This one usually has no speed control, although SpeedFan tool was able to adjust it as well.

PSU is the only place we do have fans but we can't control it at all. Larger PSUs usually have thermal controls to slow their fans by a bit, but not much. And the PSU when dusty does lots of noise: not only from the fans but dirty does not dissipate heat, and the PSU thinks it's getting hotter and hotter, until the fan is always running at full speed, acting like an helicopter :) If you have access to a compressed air equipment, do yourself a favor and blow the dust away from the PSU. Maybe a good vacuum cleaner can help. Please note, you should never ever open the PSU case: both the blown air or the vacuum cleaner should be used on the air entrances on the PSU's outside.

If the constant heat is still an issue, then you may need to look at better cooling systems. Improved CPU fans and heatsinks, improved GPU coolers, the sexy water cooling systems, your wallet is the limit :)
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12 Jun 2010   #55
Tousdae

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HQuest View Post
"Old" thread but that may help. If your computer case (where all the stuff except monitor and keyboard/mouse) sits in a too closed, few air flow space, then your fans will keep blowing hot air to inside your computer, which will make the entire system hotter than what it should be.

Either ATi (HD4000 series or higher) or NVidia (9000 series or higher) video cards have internal features to "downclock" themselves when idle.
Ohhh yep .. my case is between my chair and a wall. I have it less than a foot from the wall. It used to be closer until I hung a fan up to blow into the case. I'll see if I can .. move it elsewhere were it can get more air.

I definitely need an ATI 4000 or higher then. Thanks for that info.
I always uninstall the catalyst control center, as I have no idea what to do with it.

Thanks HQuest
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12 Jun 2010   #56
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Howdy!



Some of them are pretty inexpensive too, I have one of these as a second gfx card, it doesn't need an external power source, just "plug it in" to the mobo and I run a 47" 1080P LCD TV through it.

Graphics / Video Cards, ATI, Radeon HD 4000 series, Radeon HD 4350
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13 Jun 2010   #57
Tousdae

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

If I have a PCI-Express x16 ... now ... what else is compatible? Uh, you'd have to know my motherboard huh?

I have a:
Diamond Viper 3650PE512 ATI Radeon HD 3650 PCIE 512 GDDR2 Video Card

Thanks for that info Kid :)
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13 Jun 2010   #58
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tousdae View Post
If I have a PCI-Express x16 ... now ... what else is compatible? Uh, you'd have to know my motherboard huh?

I have a:
Diamond Viper 3650PE512 ATI Radeon HD 3650 PCIE 512 GDDR2 Video Card

Thanks for that info Kid :)


That's what you need, for a little more you'll get more "oomph" have a look at these, be sure to know what kind of power connectors you have/will need also look at the "In" connectors you will need.

Graphics / Video Cards, NVIDIA, GeForce 9 series, GeForce 9800 GT
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14 Jun 2010   #59
Tousdae

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

There's word on The Sims site by officials (after multiple complaints from Sim gamers) that there are issues with playing the game with a Nvidia card. They said, too, that they were working with the makers of the card to fix the issues. So I'm a little shy to get that card. I'll go thru the link you gave me with the ATI cards to try to find that Omph! :)

This is the thread that won't die huh? lol
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14 Jun 2010   #60
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tousdae View Post
There's word on The Sims site by officials (after multiple complaints from Sim gamers) that there are issues with playing the game with a Nvidia card. They said, too, that they were working with the makers of the card to fix the issues. So I'm a little shy to get that card. I'll go thru the link you gave me with the ATI cards to try to find that Omph! :)

This is the thread that won't die huh? lol


Nope, it's a zombie thread. Hot weather overloading my fan.-mummy.gif


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