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Windows 7: What in the heck is a "challenge code"???

19 May 2011   #11
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

No I would never agree to this type of activation for any product.

I don't really like server activation either, ala Steam or Windows Activation for instance.
What if one day the company goes under? What will happen to those activation servers?
Are they going to unlock all that software? No.

Basically, you are SOL if that ever happens.
Hope you enjoyed all those games you will not ever be able to play again.

"Oh, that will never happen. it's too big to fail."
I laugh heartily and just stare with amazement.


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19 May 2011   #12
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

@ Tepid:

Hello. Thanks for the reply.

Yes, you are so true. ...and YES, this happened to similarly me a few years ago too!!!

I remember it vividly because I was so mad!

I had a software that I paid about $150 dollars for. It was for video editing. It was compatible with Windows XP at the time. I loved using it. The point was they sold the product license/rights to SONY and they terminated it. In the termination of the product, they blocked their activation servers for this product. Well, I think I had a malicious virus do some harm to my system registry, since viruses started to appear in my Quarantine about the same time. My system worked, but froze up at times. So I had to re-install Windows XP. What a "BIG" pain to re-install all my software, but anyways I had went to activate my product while I was installing it. It failed. I contacted the company via e-mail and it is then that I found they no longer manufactured the product. I told them 'okay, so...' '...can't you still activate my software for me still since it is YOUR product???' They said they couldn't. There is nothing they could do for me. Boy, was I real HOT!!! It STILL bugs me TODAY when I think about it!!! I recall using the product for about 6 months until this re-installation of Windows had happened. I was stuck with a worthless product since activation was required before it could be used. I kept it for awhile around the house and then finally trashed it. Yes, activations can be a real issue! I understand why they have them, but they are a real pain and there can be a loss for the user!!!
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19 May 2011   #13
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Hence, those that did not pirate before, may pirate due to these measures.
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19 May 2011   #14
armyslowrdr

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
 
 

yup--neoscene video software utilizes challenge code. I found out when I updated to Windows 7 64 bit and again when I switched out my RAM. Each time I had to contact the company and explain what was happening and they were kind enough to issue me a reset. They did after the 2d time they had to do it in the same week though tell me do all my upgrading at once then request..lol.
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19 May 2011   #15
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Hence, those that did not pirate before, may pirate due to these measures.
Yes, that can happen-- but rare. But under normal conditions, companies or developers watch over their 'flock'. When a license/rights is sold to another company (like SONY), either the rights for the 'original owner' on previous versions of a product are still intact with the 'original owner' and they find some means to activate it for me... ...or ALL rights are carried over to the 'new owner' of the product. In that case, SONY would of continued with the activation for my product in some manner. In my case, they just dropped it like a hot potato. I never thought that was right. But I am the little person in this bigger scheme of things, so I lose.
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20 May 2011   #16
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by montecarlo1987 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Hence, those that did not pirate before, may pirate due to these measures.
Yes, that can happen-- but rare. But under normal conditions, companies or developers watch over their 'flock'. When a license/rights is sold to another company (like SONY), either the rights for the 'original owner' on previous versions of a product are still intact with the 'original owner' and they find some means to activate it for me... ...or ALL rights are carried over to the 'new owner' of the product. In that case, SONY would of continued with the activation for my product in some manner. In my case, they just dropped it like a hot potato. I never thought that was right. But I am the little person in this bigger scheme of things, so I lose.
Yep, make it as difficult as possible for those who wish to follow the rules.
And the point of that is???

That's a rhetorical question obviously.
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20 May 2011   #17
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

@ Tepid:

It goes to show nice guys and gals finish last, when you honest and you DO pay for your products!

I agree, this type of strict authorization/authentication technology will definitely inflame more piracy... ...there is no question... ...and the honest and innocent little guys and gals will get brunt in the crossfire between the pirates and the software developers
and experience increased difficulty. Don't you like the days when things were easier (like during the birth of the Internet)? There has to be other means to prevent piracy and not resort to this kind of strict authorization/authentication technology? Where are the major geeks out there?
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20 May 2011   #18
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by montecarlo1987 View Post
@ Tepid:

It goes to show nice guys and gals finish last, when you honest and you DO pay for your products!

I agree, this type of strict authorization/authentication technology will definitely inflame more piracy... ...there is no question... ...and the honest and innocent little guys and gals will get brunt in the crossfire between the pirates and the software developers
and experience increased difficulty. Don't you like the days when things were easier (like during the birth of the Internet)? There has to be other means to prevent piracy and not resort to this kind of strict authorization/authentication technology? Where are the major geeks out there?
I personally don't care for the Challenge Code Authentication system since it is usually slow and only works during normal business hours since someone has to authenticate the code and generate an activation code.

there is one program that a client of mine uses for his sign printing business that uses that system. Last time I had to repair his machine and re-install that program, we waited about 20 minutes for the reply email, then I called the company and had them authenticate over the phone since I get paid by the hour and didn't want to wait there all day. the client is also a friend so I didn't want to have to charge him for my idle time. (even though we are friends, this is business related).

I think they use this method since it is easier than setting up and maintaining a dedicated authentication server, (probably cheaper too).
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