Installing MSI packages

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  1. Posts : 53,365
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #11

    It looks like the installer is at least looking for the correct file on D: I think it's likely how you moved your user folder. I have not personally done that. Here is Brink's tute on that:

    User Profile - Change Default Location

    If you can run the installer from the root of D:, or C: for that matter, and select the installation directory, a workaround would be downloading, or moving the installer to a different location. I'll see if any of our resident smart people have any ideas

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  2. Posts : 256
    Windows 8 Pro x64
       #12

    What do the file security permissions look like for your D:\ drive?
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  3. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #13

    Kevin: Check the security options on D:\User and D:\User\Kevin

    Standard owner for C:\Users is Administrators
    Standard owner for Yourname is System

    You want to match what is standard to D:\Users

    It might be easier for you to create a new user in the standard user location C:\Users and match those settings against your Profile on D: - make the new user the same type as Kevin (Admin or Std).

    Once you have the new user - look at the security settings and match them on d:
    Start at the top Profile folder Users - what does C:\Users have for permissions and who owns it, are the permissions inherited?
    apply the same to d:\Users

    then check the new user - same thing perms, owner, inherited
    apply the same to d:\users\kevin

    now check the files and sub-folders under the new user....
    apply same to d:\users\kevin files and sub-folders

    edit: of course the owner would be kevin, not the new user.... but you knew that - right

    It's fairly easy if you have a template. Once your done, double check the settings and you can delete the new user.

    Do the msi installs work under your profile on d: now?
    Last edited by Slartybart; 30 Oct 2012 at 00:14. Reason: clarify owner of d:\users\kevin
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  4. Posts : 6,458
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       #14

    LuzTeTT: I type too slow..... or too much
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  5. Posts : 256
    Windows 8 Pro x64
       #15

    Slartybart said:
    LuzTeTT: I type too slow..... or too much
    The fact that we posted at the exact same time makes me wonder whether I need to get out more or not. Your post didn't concern me as much.
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  6. Posts : 373
    Windows 7 Ultimate x6
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       #16

    A Guy said:
    It looks like the installer is at least looking for the correct file on D: I think it's likely how you moved your user folder. I have not personally done that. Here is Brink's tute on that:

    User Profile - Change Default Location

    If you can run the installer from the root of D:, or C: for that matter, and select the installation directory, a workaround would be downloading, or moving the installer to a different location. I'll see if any of our resident smart people have any ideas

    A Guy
    That's not how I did it though. I followed the infamous guide of Sean at OCN for moving the default location of your personal folders. It's simply changong the directory of the defaul location pane under the properties of Downloads, My Documents, etc. folders. No need to edit registry or something.

    EDIT: Here's the link for Sean's guide
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds


    Slartybart said:
    Kevin: Check the security options on D:\User and D:\User\Kevin

    Standard owner for C:\Users is Administrators
    Standard owner for Yourname is System

    You want to match what is standard to D:\Users

    It might be easier for you to create a new user in the standard user location C:\Users and match those settings against your Profile on D: - make the new user the same type as Kevin (Admin or Std).

    Once you have the new user - look at the security settings and match them on d:
    Start at the top Profile folder Users - what does C:\Users have for permissions and who owns it, are the permissions inherited?
    apply the same to d:\Users

    then check the new user - same thing perms, owner, inherited
    apply the same to d:\users\kevin

    now check the files and sub-folders under the new user....
    apply same to d:\users\kevin files and sub-folders

    edit: of course the owner would be kevin, not the new user.... but you knew that - right

    It's fairly easy if you have a template. Once your done, double check the settings and you can delete the new user.

    Do the msi installs work under your profile on d: now?
    I have to try this when I get home. Won't Windows do this automatically upon moving the defaul location of our personal folders?
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  7. Posts : 373
    Windows 7 Ultimate x6
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Here's the permissions for D:\Users folder:



    And here's for the D:\Users\Kevin folder:



    Anything wrong with them? I see that for all users, the settings for both are at Full Control.

    Oh by the way, the MSI installer runs fine at D:\Users as well. But when I put it anywhere inside D:\Users\Kevin then there's the problem.
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  8. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #18

    D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access

    As I mentioned before a std user is set up with system being the owner. Try just adding System and Administrators to the Kevin folder. If it works great, if not, set System as owner on Kevin - "apply to this object only"
    DO NOT apply to sub-folders and files - Kevin should still be the owner of everything under the Kevin folder.
    Be careful and pay attention - if you change the owner of files and sub-folders under Kevin, you'll have to do more work to correct it.

    I would still recommend creating a user to use as a security reference - that way you can look at how Windows sets security and match Kevin to that "template". It's what I do when trouble shooting. I ask "What does Windows do when...."

    You don't need to keep the new user around - just use it as a reference for setting security.
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  9. Posts : 373
    Windows 7 Ultimate x6
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Slartybart said:
    D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access

    As I mentioned before a std user is set up with system being the owner. Try just adding System and Administrators to the Kevin folder. If it works great, if not, set System as owner on Kevin - "apply to this object only"
    DO NOT apply to sub-folders and files - Kevin should still be the owner of everything under the Kevin folder.
    Be careful and pay attention - if you change the owner of files and sub-folders under Kevin, you'll have to do more work to correct it.

    I would still recommend creating a user to use as a security reference - that way you can look at how Windows sets security and match Kevin to that "template". It's what I do when trouble shooting. I ask "What does Windows do when...."

    You don't need to keep the new user around - just use it as a reference for setting security.
    Right, got it. I'll do it this weekend :) Why doesn't Win7 do this automatically when the location of personal folders are moved?
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  10. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #20

    It depends on how you move them. It's been noted on sevenforums that using the location property to move personal folders presents issues - I think you discovered THE issue that causes other issues.

    There are tutorials on changing user folder/files and changing user profiles - but I don't want to send you chasing a different course right now. Try what's been suggested and if there are still issues or new issues, I'll probably suggest reading the tutorial and following those instructions. But for now......

    D:\Users\Kevin has no security setting to allow Administrators or System access. give both full access
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