Windows 7 defrag vs Diskeeper

Teerex · Sep 27, 2009

I rely on the Windows automated tool. This one in 7 works great - gets to work as soon as it detects a longer idle period.

One thing though, I think the boot defragmentation is done separately.

See:

Log Name: Application
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Defrag
Date: 24. 9. 2009. 5:16:23 AM
Event ID: 258
Task Category: None
Level: Information
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Zvijer
Description:
The disk defragmenter successfully completed boot optimization on Sedmica (C

mn9500 · Oct 9, 2009

Dinesh said:
i use defraggler once in a month.

thanks dude, i just downloaded it and used it. alot more user friendly that diskeeper imo. im loving it.

Dinesh · Oct 10, 2009

You are Welcome.

Agent Zach · Oct 10, 2009

A320 said:
Anyone have any good experiences with something that is 'Automatic'

O&O Defrag Pro v12

Default Options allow Background Defragmenting, with less than 1/8 total resource usage. Adjusts with the performance & resource level of your current computer activity.

Out of 5 Stars, in my personal opinion, I'd give O&O Defrag Pro v12 an 8.

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shuster · Oct 10, 2009

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torrentg · Oct 10, 2009

ProXic said:
A320 said:

Anyone have any good experiences with something that is 'Automatic'

Click to expand...

O&O Defrag Pro v12

Default Options allow Background Defragmenting, with less than 1/8 total resource usage. Adjusts with the performance & resource level of your current computer activity.

Out of 5 Stars, in my personal opinion, I'd give O&O Defrag Pro v12 an 8.

Click Here for More Info!

Good post. +1 I've been using this and prior versions for a few years now. It's excellent and you could do offline (when Windows boots before it is up)
defrag of your partitions and/or drives to get important files for disk speed, that you can not do in a running Windows machine.

Anyone looking to do this, you need to use the scheduler function of the program while creating and adding a job, so ya know. Click "add job", top left.

I don't use the background function. And now they have optional zones that group files together according to it's access. I don't use that either but I tried it. They're cool options though.

detailer · Oct 10, 2009

Restore Points Gone

Well,don't know what's up here,but every time I run an "optimzed" defrag,my restore points disappear.To date I've tried IObit's Smart Defrag,Disktrix Defrag Express,and just moments ago,My Defrag v4.2.1.I believe I may have tried JK a while back because they advetised it as "shadow copy aware",but same result.I do note,browsing through services,that Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider and Volume Shadow Copy are set to run on Demand.Should these be set to auto start? I am able to create my own restore points,but notice that Win is not creating one daily as I believe I read it is supposed to.Could someone shed some light on this please? Thanks in advance.

A320 · Oct 11, 2009

ProXic said:
A320 said:

Anyone have any good experiences with something that is 'Automatic'

Click to expand...

O&O Defrag Pro v12

Default Options allow Background Defragmenting, with less than 1/8 total resource usage. Adjusts with the performance & resource level of your current computer activity.

Out of 5 Stars, in my personal opinion, I'd give O&O Defrag Pro v12 an 8.

Click Here for More Info!

Yes as per my last quote, I have been using o&o and I have to say, it's been what a week or two and I forgot I even had it. After installation, I played with the settings, turned on 'auto' and haven't heard or seen a hint of it since. Unlike, Diskeeper in which when I sat down at my desk, computer idling, I could tell Diskeeper was doing it's thing as the HD light was lit up but as I stated earlier, my drives were still always defragged, seemed like Diskeeper wasn't even doing anything.

Since o&o and me forgetting that it was there, I decided to fire up the GUI and do an 'analyze' as I can't recall ever seeing the computer tasking over the past couple weeks so I wasn't even sure if it was doing anything in the background, sure enough though, the results of the analysis were showing almost nil changes and yes I have done plenty of installing, moving, unraring, etc.

Definitely recommend o&o! :party:

Agent Zach · Oct 11, 2009

It's worth the buy, for those who don't already own it, I can guarantee that.

I first purchased O&O Defrag 11.5 when I was running Vista... Got their customer alert notification, and was "awarded" a free upgrade to 12 for Win7 compatibility.

O&O is one of the few companies that allows free upgrades (not just updates) for their software.

gizbug · Oct 13, 2009

Latest Perfectdisk is all you need. Even Windows 7 certified. Why use anything else?

BeechV35Pilot · Oct 14, 2009

ProXic said:
O&O is one of the few companies that allows free upgrades (not just updates) for their software.

To be fair, this policy of theirs was just enacted sometime these past few months and to qualify for free upgrades, one has to have purchased the prior version within the grace period (each product has its own grace period):

O&O Software - Grace Period Upgrade

I had purchased their DiskImage v3.x software in June and literally two weeks later they announced the release of v4.x. When I emailed them about qualifying for a free upgrade given the small window between the two events, they denied my request.

It wasn't until early October that I spotted their change of heart policy and again asked about my experience. At that point they did grant me a free upgrade.

A320 · Oct 14, 2009

Hey Beech is the V35 a T-Tail model?

JoHn87 · Oct 14, 2009

I've been hearing alot of good reviews about diskeeper.

I used Defraggler since beta and have no problems with it. It free at least.

BeechV35Pilot · Oct 14, 2009

A320 said:
Hey Beech is the V35 a T-Tail model?

No, the V35 is a V-tail:

FlightAware > Viewer

A320 · Oct 14, 2009

I can't believe I said T-Tail I meant V-Tail.

Never did get to fly one of those, always wanted to see how that tail handled.

Bryan Crow · Nov 27, 2009

My wife just bought a Core2 Duo-based laptop with 4GB of memory and Windows 7 Home Premium. So far, I don't know "7" at all, having reinstalled XP on my machines after trying Vista and not yet having tried 7. (Anybody want to buy a legit copy of Vista Ultimate cheap? Never broke the seal on the 32-bit disk.)

How do you manually defrag 7?

I've enjoyed Diskeeper for years. I use Version 10 Premium and, early this week, added DK's new automatic continuous defragmentation. I'm not sure yet how well it works, but it seems to be doing the job. Nevertheless, I've also defragged free space with PC Magazine's Defrag-A-File utility since installing the DK add-on. When I manually defrag with Diskeeper immediately after running D-A-F, the map shows much more complete defragmentation--continuous blue bars. (I also put folders together and defrag the MFT and paging files with boot-time defrag.

Will this strategy work with 7?

Why so much attention to defragmentation? I read, and experts tell me, that SSDs don't need defragmentation. Hmm. My boot drive is an Areca RAID0 of four Mtron 7000s, yet it benefits from frequent defrags to make Photoshop, AutoCAD, and--especially--Dragon NaturallySpeaking perform at their best. Immediately after resorting the RAID0 disk, they fairly sing.

I've tried utilities that defrag just the apps' own program and user files. That helps, but I get noticeable boosts after wholesale defragmentation of the entire system disk. I suspect files in Windows that I don't know about--files over and above the Program files for those applications and for their Documents and Settings files (user files) must benefit too.

Would expansion of DNS user files folders contribute? They grow fast when you keep adding vocabulary.

harpua · Nov 28, 2009

I've used Perfect Disk, the native W7 utility, and O&O and my favorite by far is O&O. As was mentioned by someone else above, it is very light on system resources while it does its thing, automatically, in the background. And it seems to do a good job of optimizing file placment on the disk, not just defragmenting.

tonesm · Jun 7, 2010

Diskeeper Versus Windows 7 Defrag

Diskeeper now prevents up to 85% of file fragmentation before it happens... thats the nutts and bolts of it... furthermore it has the smarts to monitor system resources and automatically defrag when idle resources are available... this means zero resource overheads / zero impact on the system!

The benefits are key to making the decision

Reduced Power Consumption (approx 12.4%)
Back-up windows massively reduced. Ours dropped from 12 hours to only 4!
Anti-virus scans run up to 50% faster
Reduced drive wear (less head movement thanks to continguous files)
Extend the life of the hardware by up too 3 years!

I dont understand why anyone would questions it! It works!

Heck Diskeeper is even recommended by Microsoft
This includes Virtualization platforms - DK is a Microsoft Virtualization Partner

L0stKeys · Jul 27, 2010

notice a performance drop letting Diskeeper expire?

tonesm said:
Diskeeper now prevents up to 85% of file fragmentation before it happens... thats the nutts and bolts of it... furthermore it has the smarts to monitor system resources and automatically defrag when idle resources are available... this means zero resource overheads / zero impact on the system!

The benefits are key to making the decision

Reduced Power Consumption (approx 12.4%)

Back-up windows massively reduced. Ours dropped from 12 hours to only 4!

Anti-virus scans run up to 50% faster

Reduced drive wear (less head movement thanks to continguous files)

Extend the life of the hardware by up too 3 years!

I dont understand why anyone would questions it! It works!

Heck Diskeeper is even recommended by Microsoft
This includes Virtualization platforms - DK is a Microsoft Virtualization Partner

I've used Diskeeper for at least 6 years, from XP to 7, and it's worked so well that from time to time maybe a few times a year I've checked in on it just to see if it was still installed. Disks were always perfect in DK's UI, but it seems like a new age is upon us as reactive defrag is caveman computing. It's been replaced with a proactive AI that evolves along with the user to minimize latency and disk stress, but where is the benchmarking? Who is going to notice a difference in performance with a proactive defragger? An older system that needs as much help as it can get? What about a brand new gaming rig? What about a PC that is left on 24/7?

Regarding the quoted post, where did those numbers come from? The linked Microsoft recommendation is pre Windows 7.
-John

Mordaunt · Mar 23, 2012

Has anyone tried Puran?
I read that all the other 3rd party defrag programs destroy your restore points, but this one doesn't, is this the case?

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