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Windows 7: Software to avoid

21 Nov 2009   #311
catilley1092

Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
 
 

A lot of these "free downloads" that promises your speed to increase up to 400% and even some free programs that you receive by email invitation are at the very least, a fraud. If your system is that bad off, then you need a new one. In the past (my XP days), I bit at anything that would improve performance for free. Lucky thing for restore points and on a couple of occasions, breaking out the reinstall disc. I still get spam email from Easous, Paragon, and many others. Please listen to me, nothing worthwhile in the PC world is entirely free. All these registry cleaners, memory defraggers and such will lead you to disaster. If you need help, the forum is here, get on it. Or if your system is under warranty, call them. Don't fall victim to con artists. Cyber fraud is the fastest growing crime in America.


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22 Nov 2009   #312
AntiSilence

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by goyta View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AntiSilence View Post
Also, Windows 7 does not support the older .hlp help file format (.chm is) so the help won't work.
Support for the old .HLP format is available as an add-on for both Vista and Windows 7. Look at Microsoft Download Center and search for "Winhlp32" - I would post a direct link, but they are highly variable on Microsoft's site. Maybe for now you could make a temporary workaround placing a screen in your installer telling users to download the applicable help DLL.
Yeah, I know you can download the old help file system, but it's not native to Vista and 7. I don't think it's right to have to download something that's obsolete to run an older programme though lol.
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22 Nov 2009   #313
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by goyta View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cheeriokilla View Post
To be perfectly honest with you, you have to at least 'trust' the likes of av-comparatives.org and/or matousec.com to some extent.

If you read up on what Matousec is, and what they stand for, you will realise they're not selling any BS. On the contrary. Read up on the site and you will see what kind of testing level is used to acquire those results, AND what kind of effect they have on the vendors reactions to them.

When comparing the two websites and considering that one compares the standalones, and the other compares the Firewall protection of mostly suites, the wise decision would be combining what is a good standalone AV according to av-comparatives, with a good Firewall according to Matousec, and that's exactly what I did.
I know both sites, and they are indeed serious ones, and both Avira and PC Tools' Firewall are good products as well. You've made a wise decision. However, the "best" product will still be another one according to some other equally serious and reputable site. And the next tests by av-comparatives.org and Matousec may have entirely different results. There is no single product that stands out at this moment, and given how things are changing, there isn't likely to be one in the future.

The days of "innocence" are over. Malware is not any more the work of some bored or disgruntled teenage computer whiz somewhere. It is the work of highly organized, multinational, professional criminal gangs with a high level of technical knowledge and competence. I mean Ph.D. level - often literally. They increasingly know how to fool security products and render them useless by themselves.

So, use top-tier products, as you are doing, but be aware of their limitations and of the ever-changing landscape and state of things.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cheeriokilla View Post
Throw in a light but effective Malware agent like Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, and you will REALLY have yourself a FULL circle.
No doubt you'll come nearer to it, but the point is, the circle can never be fully closed these days, if it ever could. It is very important that you have this in mind. And I would add another very essential component: Secunia Personal Software Inspector (in this case, I don't know of any real serious alternative). KIS partially implements Secunia's engine and database for its "vulnerability scan", but the real thing is even better. As opposed to being reactive like a usual antivirus is, it is proactive by closing all known doors a piece of malware could use to gain access to your system. It is extremely important to have all your software, OS and apps alike, fully updated and patched. Today, this is even more important than having an antivirus, as top specialists like Dancho Danchev always point out.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cheeriokilla View Post
I was thinking about going with Online Armor Personal Firewall (tied for 2nd in matousec.com's latest test with PC Tools' Firewall Plus), but after going to it's official web site, I found that they don't have x64 support at the moment, plus I don't think it's 'officially' 7-compatible yet.
Indeed, Online Armor doesn't have a 64-bit version yet, although its publisher, Tall Emu, says that it is in the works. But version 4.0 has just been released and it does support 32-bit Windows 7, fully and "officially".

I have decided to stick to 32-bit for now, because in my current configuration and conditions there would be no real advantage and some real hassles for me to go 64-bit. So, this not a problem for me. If and when I decide to switch to 64-bit, Online Armor will certainly already have a x64 version. But then, of course, the security software landscape may be radically changed and I may just as well choose another product.

Many people are also adding another layer of security with a hardware firewall, a specially configured router to serve that purpose. But in my conditions, I think it's overkill and an extra layer of complexity that I can do without.
Agreed (very nice post btw).

I was just explaining the thought process behind my decision.

I'll be keeping a close eye on Online Armor. Really looking forward to it's 64-bits version.
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23 Nov 2009   #314
goyta

Windows 8.1 Pro Update 1 x64
 
 
Another one in the list: Spyware Doctor 6

I just had a horrific experience trying to use PC Tools Spyware Doctor 6 on Windows 7. PC Tools' website states that it is compatible with Windows 7 (and both with 32- and 64-bit versions), I have a valid license until June next year, so I installed it. Contradicting the website, the first screen of the setup program warned that using Spyware Doctor on Windows 7 was "not recommended", but the site said it was OK, and PC Tools hasn't released a new version (at least a directly downloadable one) since May, when only Windows 7's betas and the RC were available and there was reason to be cautious. So, I let the setup proceed.

Setup went OK through the end, Spyware Doctor started running and updated its databases and the program itself to a minor newer version (6.1. something). Then it asked for a reboot. I rebooted, logged on to my usual standard account and there was no desktop! All black, no icons, no wallpaper, no taskbar, no Start button, unresponsive Windows key. I pressed CTRL+ALT+DELETE and used Task Manager to kill explorer.exe then restart it. The desktop appeared, but without Aero.

I rebooted again. This time the desktop appeared (including Aero), but Kaspersky Internet Security didn't load (and its icon on the desktop mysteriously disappeared as well!). I started KIS manually from the Start menu and it loaded OK. (I had used both at the same time without any problems on Windows XP.) But several programs, such as CCleaner and The Bat! e-mail, started displaying weird error messages when I tried to use them.

At this point, I sent a message to PC Tools' support (and I'm still waiting for an answer, almost 18 hours later), but then I decided I wouldn't take it and uninstalled Spyware Doctor using Revo Uninstaller. Still not satisfied, I decided to do a system restore to a point before installing Spyware Doctor (even though that would force me to reinstall a couple of other programs). The system restore failed with a weird error (it said it couldn't find the C:\Windows folder!). By this time I was sweating cold. But from then on everything worked as usual and I was VERY relieved!

I'm angry for losing some 7 months of my paid license, but even if PC Tools replies with a workaround, I'm not going to risk installing Spyware Doctor on Windows 7 again!
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24 Nov 2009   #315
KDW

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jason View Post
You can add BitDefender 2009 to the list. I don't think that BD '09 works well under 64-bit Vista and W7.. on both OS's they eliminate my use of the internet/network (this happens after a while, it's not immediately apparent), it's like a driver crashes or something. BD '09 works well under Vista 32-bit, though.

Maybe someone that's running W7 32-bit can try and see if it works for a few hours?

Another for the list is EASEUS Partition Manager -- it borked my W7 partition, and called for a reinstall for W7. It failed on expanding the partition..
I was using the BD09 on the win7RC it worked fine, but I had problems with my network connection.
Since I installed the Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit, I've updated my BD09 to BD10 and it works fine, no problems so far, 4 days since I installed the win7.
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24 Nov 2009   #316
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by goyta View Post
I just had a horrific experience trying to use PC Tools Spyware Doctor 6 on Windows 7. PC Tools' website states that it is compatible with Windows 7 (and both with 32- and 64-bit versions), I have a valid license until June next year, so I installed it. Contradicting the website, the first screen of the setup program warned that using Spyware Doctor on Windows 7 was "not recommended", but the site said it was OK, and PC Tools hasn't released a new version (at least a directly downloadable one) since May, when only Windows 7's betas and the RC were available and there was reason to be cautious. So, I let the setup proceed.

Setup went OK through the end, Spyware Doctor started running and updated its databases and the program itself to a minor newer version (6.1. something). Then it asked for a reboot. I rebooted, logged on to my usual standard account and there was no desktop! All black, no icons, no wallpaper, no taskbar, no Start button, unresponsive Windows key. I pressed CTRL+ALT+DELETE and used Task Manager to kill explorer.exe then restart it. The desktop appeared, but without Aero.

I rebooted again. This time the desktop appeared (including Aero), but Kaspersky Internet Security didn't load (and its icon on the desktop mysteriously disappeared as well!). I started KIS manually from the Start menu and it loaded OK. (I had used both at the same time without any problems on Windows XP.) But several programs, such as CCleaner and The Bat! e-mail, started displaying weird error messages when I tried to use them.

At this point, I sent a message to PC Tools' support (and I'm still waiting for an answer, almost 18 hours later), but then I decided I wouldn't take it and uninstalled Spyware Doctor using Revo Uninstaller. Still not satisfied, I decided to do a system restore to a point before installing Spyware Doctor (even though that would force me to reinstall a couple of other programs). The system restore failed with a weird error (it said it couldn't find the C:\Windows folder!). By this time I was sweating cold. But from then on everything worked as usual and I was VERY relieved!

I'm angry for losing some 7 months of my paid license, but even if PC Tools replies with a workaround, I'm not going to risk installing Spyware Doctor on Windows 7 again!
Im sorry for your problems, but the next time that a program warns you about compatibility problems, pay attention to it.. I would also recommend implementing a system imaging policy in case your system gets borked again...
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24 Nov 2009   #317
KDW

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jason View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hierweg View Post
about a month ago i was installing BD2009. it created some kind of a ghost user named BitDefenderComm which couldnt be deleted + i couldnt use bitdefender firewall nor windows defender. i had to use a system restore.

I was asking in customer support and they told me that bitdefender probably hadnt acces to some windows files and that messed up my system. i tried to install via administrator account and it worked perfectly.

...and the lived happily ever after.

And Paragon partition manager screwed my computer. I had to format whole disk.
I'm not sure if I had those symptoms or not.. however, are you running the 64-bit or 32-bit version of BitDefender, and are you positive, absolutely positive, that it's the 2009 series product that you installed? Also, what was the type (AV/GameSafe/Total Security/etc)?

If my memory serves me correctly, I did install it as administrator (not using the actual "Administrator" account name, but sufficient privileges should do). I didn't "run as administrator," I actually went into properties and went to the compatibility tab and checked "Run as Administrator" (as I believe those two options have different effects).

My copy did install correctly, but it malfunctioned (as I mentioned in my original post) every so often -- causing stuff to go haywire. How long have you been using BitDefender on Windows 7, and have you successfully had your system running for a period longer than a few (3~) hours, without it going haywire?

Thanks

I am using the BD2010 Total Security on Windows 7 Home Premium and it works fine.
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24 Nov 2009   #318
KDW

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

I had to uninstal itunes it was messing up my audio, there was no sound after I installed itunes, and I also uninstalled the Advanced System Care.
Now the laptop is purring like a cat!
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24 Nov 2009   #319
goyta

Windows 8.1 Pro Update 1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
Im sorry for your problems, but the next time that a program warns you about compatibility problems, pay attention to it..
I agree, but the Web site said it was compatible... So, I think the real lesson is that at least for now, one should not blindly trust a software maker, even a well-known one, when it says its software is compatible with Windows 7.

I should know better: I'm a technical translator now, but I once worked in the IT department of a large institution just as the Web was appearing, and I know that more often than not, Web design, marketing and technical staff work completely out of pace!

Now I'm also having problems with Secunia Personal Software Inspector 1.5.0.1 - and this is serious, because I consider it one of the most essential things to have these days. Likewise, Secunia states that it is compatible with Windows 7 (going as far as to mention both 32- and 64-bit compatibility), but Microsoft disagrees: the verdict from the compatibility troubleshooting wizard is that it is incompatible.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
I would also recommend implementing a system imaging policy in case your system gets borked again...
Mea culpa... I am extremely disciplined and paranoid about data file backups, but not so much with system images...
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27 Nov 2009   #320
AntiSilence

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
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Until I get the time to write a new version, I would avoid this in Windows Vista and 7.
That is the first time I have seen a Developer opening report his software in a personal manner as not working on a platform
I started designing the new version of my app today It will be totally Windows 7 compatible including such things as Jump Lists as I added my first jump list to a project yesterday
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