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Windows 7: Extracting RAR archives results in different extracted file sizes

09 Oct 2019   #1
cgh98

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Extracting RAR archives results in different extracted file sizes

I have been extracting several RAR archives that have been stored on an external HD for a while. I do not know what the exact contents of the archives were before they were archived so there is no way for me to know if any content is actually missing. I started extracting two copies of each archive as a redundancy factor and I noticed something very strange. After the archive is fully extracted I extract the same archive again and once the same archive is fully extracted I view the Properties of both and the size, size on disk, and file/folder count are different. They are not massively different from each other but I question why they would be different at all as they should be identical since they are being extracted from the one and the same original RAR archive.

The RAR archives are stored on one external HD and I am extracting them to another external HD (Untitled). Both HDs are formatted as ExFAT. They are being extracted by WinRAR v5.40 64-bit on a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell laptop. And this has happened with multiple archives. I have made sure in the process that nothing has gotten disconnected, the computer has stayed on the entire time, no power failures.

The part I have found to be even stranger is that when I disconnect the external HD that I have extracted the files to and connect it to my Mac and compare the Properties of the two RAR archives; they are identical in size, size on disk, and item count. Also strange to me is that the file sizes on the Mac are quite a bit different compared to the identical file on the same drive on the Windows 7 computer.

I've attached a couple screenshots of three copies of one archive extracted and two copies of another archive extracted with the Properties displayed on the Windows PC and the Mac. I just can't understand why the files when extracted are different sizes. My main purpose for this post is first to see if anyone might can tell me why the files may be different in size and second to see if anyone thinks I have a reason to be concerned about missing files. Thanks to anyone in advance!!




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09 Oct 2019   #2
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

I use WinRar all the time. My AutoSURT64 is bases upon a Self-Extracting WinRar executable.
Does this happen every time you extract contents they are different size?
If not, you probably didn't extract everything on the smaller one.
Bill

run sha1 hash match.

Bill
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10 Oct 2019   #3
cgh98

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Does this happen every time you extract contents they are different size?
If not, you probably didn't extract everything on the smaller one.
The "Cliff" archive I have only extracted twice and the second extraction was different in size compared to the first one, on Windows. Yet they are identical in size when looking at the same two folders on Mac.

The other archive "All Flash Drives & SD Cards" I have extracted three times. The last two times, each folder is identical in size but the first extraction was different in size, on Windows. Yet they are all three identical when looking at the same three folders on Mac.

One other thing I noticed is that on my Mac, the file size and size on disk of both sets of folders are larger than when looking at them on Windows. However the number of total items on Mac is lesser in both sets of folders compared to the number of total files & folders on Windows. Why would the two OSes be wielding such different results when viewing the same exact folders? Every extraction was completed without interruption so I don't see how everything couldn't have been extracted. Why would Windows have two different sizes for two copies of an extraction of the same archive?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
run sha1 hash match.
How could I check the hash for folders?

THANKS for your reply!
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10 Oct 2019   #4
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It could be due to the hard drive format of ExFAT. Not sure. Can you extract to a NTFS hard drive? Also, try 7Zip to extract the folder.
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10 Oct 2019   #5
chuckhig

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Bandzip is another option. Been using it for years.
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10 Oct 2019   #6
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

MAC compression different from Windows compression? Regarding different archived sizes.
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10 Oct 2019   #7
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
 
 

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10 Oct 2019   #8
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
MAC compression different from Windows compression? Regarding different archived sizes.

I don't think that's it all because there are file and size discrepancies in Windows 7 not on the Mac.
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10 Oct 2019   #9
cgh98

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
MAC compression different from Windows compression? Regarding different archived sizes.
Well when I've looked at the actual RAR archives before there is a different in size there as well on the Mac but both of those could just be the different ways the OSes read the data? I've done a little experimenting and this is the same case with smaller files from the desktop; showing slightly different sizes when viewing the folder on Mac vs Windows. But ultimately that's not even my main issue. The problem is, why would extracting the same RAR archive two times on the same computer to the same drive result in different extracted file sizes? And this is before ever touching the contents of extracted folders. Just can't get my head around it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by F22 Simpilot View Post
It could be due to the hard drive format of ExFAT. Not sure. Can you extract to a NTFS hard drive? Also, try 7Zip to extract the folder.
I don't think extracting to an NTFS drive would work because the original files were saved on an ExFAT drive already and the file paths I already know are too long to copy to an NTFS drive. I've already experienced this when trying to copy some files from this extracted archive to the desktop it won't work saying due to a file name/file path too long error.

I'm going to try extracting the archives with 7Zip and Bandzip to see if I get the same results.
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12 Oct 2019   #10
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yeah, please let us know if 7Zip yields the same result.
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