New windows 7 pcs

Capella · 30 Jan 2010

We all know how windows vista had so much crapware that running it was quite a shame. What I want to know is, how much trialware does windows 7 pcs usually include? similar amounts?
Also, are the number of crapware different for customized ones from the website versus computers you buy from retail?

(Im asking this because I just bought a dell i5 computer and it came with ZERO crapware. All it had were, roxio, dell dock, and mcaffee, and perhaps, a dvd application. There weren't trial games, NOT EVEN A SINGLE ICON ON THE SCREEN. Notification area had three icons. Is this normal for a windows 7 new computer)

pparks1 · 30 Jan 2010

You don't get the "crapware" trialware when you install from the cd direct from Microsoft. You get that added stuff when you purchase a prebuilt computer from a manufacturer. The amount of stuff depends upon the manufacturer really. Usually the manufacturers get a kickback from the software vendors when they install their stuff....so it's often put on there to help lower the cost of the computer.

Capella · 30 Jan 2010

Yeah, I knew that you don't get the added stuff from a custom installation. Im just asking anyone who has bought a windows 7 preinstalled machine, how much crapware do they have. Im also asking if there's any difference when you customize a machine (like from dell) rather than buy a machine at a store (like ebay) and whether the customized machine will always have less crapware.

pparks1 · 30 Jan 2010

There is no telling how much crapware you are going to have on any machine. Regardless if I build or buy...my machines end up crapware free as I always format and reinstall the operating system. 99.9% of that stuff is just garbage and I likely have a free alternative which is smaller and easier on system resources that I am already familiar with.

madtownidiot · 30 Jan 2010

The level of factory installed bloatware and trialware hasn't changed. I recently bought a Lenovo Y550, which came with Win7 Home premium, for my daughter. On the first startup there were 92 running processes including the Symantec infection.

Capella · 30 Jan 2010

im....disappointed......
thanks for responding madtownidiot :)

madtownidiot · 30 Jan 2010

That's just part of the industry. Software companies pay big money to get contracts to have trialware included with new PCs because a large portion of their business comes from people who choose to upgrade the trial to a permanent license. Unfortunately, a lot of the trialware is for lower quality applications. I've chosen to accept that part of buying a new computer includes erasing the HDD and starting with a fresh copy of windows and drivers.. then building from there.

Zepher · 01 Feb 2010

The more crapware pre-installed on the machine makes the machine cheaper to buy, as those companies subsidize the cost of the computer.

noobvious · 01 Feb 2010

madtownidiot said:

The level of factory installed bloatware and trialware hasn't changed. I recently bought a Lenovo Y550, which came with Win7 Home premium, for my daughter. On the first startup there were 92 running processes including the Symantec infection.

92??

Holy crap that's a lot of shiznit.

madtownidiot · 01 Feb 2010

92.. kind of ridiculous ain't it.. I wiped the HDD, reinstalled windows and the drivers it needed to run, office 07 home and student, MSE, and malwarebytes, freeing up 55 Gb of space on the HDD and reducing the number of processes to 44. Turned a slower than average laptop into something that would make people who are still stuck with vista or xp jealous.