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Windows 7: Confused about folder structure (winamp related)

20 Apr 2010   #11
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I would download XP mode and run Winamp there. It was apparently not properly adapted to Windows7.
I had occasion to use Winamp on W7 through another tool that showed play times of media files. If you double clicked in the other tool, it's supposed to play the file in the default player for the file type.

Turned out sometimes it would open Winamp if that was the player for that file type, and sometimes it wouldn't. I messed around with it and tracked it down to skin type if you can believe that. Winamp skins with one file extension worked, while all the Winamp skins with an alternate file extension failed. Really really weird!!


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21 Apr 2010   #12
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

It's still a winamp bug.

It's finding the documents and settings path to your music folder THEN it's going through the Users folder to the same place and thinking it's two different folders with two different sets of files (which it isn't).

And be careful, since they do point to the same place, deleting stuff from one will delete it from the other. There really is just ONE file but there are two "folders" that point to that one file.

Winamp should be smarter, use the users folder and ignore documents and settings on W7.
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21 Apr 2010   #13
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

That may explain why I have never seen it on my machine. I don't keep any music in the Music folder, it is all on a separate hard drive.
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26 Apr 2010   #14
ToastMaster

Windows 7
 
 

Hi all,

Some more detail on this:

> If you delete one does the other disappear also?

Yes. If I open both locations and move / delete a file from one, it immediately removes from the other location too. So I don't have two copies of the file - it's one file being shown under two locations.

> This almost sounds like it was an upgrade install of Windows 7 from XP, and the C:\Documents and Settings folder from the windows.old folder got copied over to the new install.

When I bough the new PC and re-installed winamp, I wanted to keep my ratings and play counts etc from my old PC, so I exported my library as a file, then loaded that into my new Win7 PC setup. Could it be this that's causing the problem?

My PC is definitely new - not an OS upgrade.

Thanks for the continued help on this

Jody
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26 Apr 2010   #15
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ToastMaster View Post
Hi all,

Some more detail on this:

> If you delete one does the other disappear also?

Yes. If I open both locations and move / delete a file from one, it immediately removes from the other location too. So I don't have two copies of the file - it's one file being shown under two locations.

> This almost sounds like it was an upgrade install of Windows 7 from XP, and the C:\Documents and Settings folder from the windows.old folder got copied over to the new install.

When I bough the new PC and re-installed winamp, I wanted to keep my ratings and play counts etc from my old PC, so I exported my library as a file, then loaded that into my new Win7 PC setup. Could it be this that's causing the problem?

My PC is definitely new - not an OS upgrade.

Thanks for the continued help on this

Jody
Jody, I do not have a solution; but now, at least, you know that you do not have duplicate files. I have the same thing ocurring with Pictures in my library. I have some files were created when I was running XP. After a clean install of Windows 7, I moved them back and they display both in pictures and in the old My Pictures. However, I only have the one set of files. After I figured out what was going on, I just ignore it.
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27 Oct 2010   #16
pcguy

Windows 7 64 bit new pc not upgrade
 
 
It's not Winamp

New Win 7 PC here - not an upgrade.

It's the way Windows 7 has been made to work. The duplicate files referred to in this thread are not imaginary and Winamp is not the only program that processes duplicate files when searching the hard drive for importing data, especially data captured and transferred by Windows Easy Transfer.

I struggled with this early on and never found a solution. This thread is as close to describing the problem, as I encountered, when trying to find an answer a few weeks ago.

All the email programs I tried (no Outlook Express in Win 7) including Outlook 2007, Windows Live Mail, Mozilla, Eudora, Zimbra and one other that escapes me at the moment, all tried to find my files for me, without asking exactly where the files I wanted to import were located.

When that happened, each of these programs imported 4 copies of all email and contacts. I had a hell of a time figuring out how to fix it - end result was manual and time consuming. Same thing for Windows Media and my music.

Today I still struggle with the architecture of Win 7 - can't leave well enough alone - change for the sake of change.............
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27 Oct 2010   #17
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

It's all part of the opposing ideals of making Windows a real multi user OS (Creating a user home folder) and yet not breaking tons of legacy apps. Frankly, it can't be done. I'd just as soon have had it break legacy apps rather than create the phantom Documents and Settings "folder", but here we are.

The solution in all cases is to update your software to windows 7 compatible versions. And by compatible, that partly means knowing how to search the HD and not follow hard links if necessary.
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27 Oct 2010   #18
Trucidation

 

As CarlTR6 pointed out earlier, the location beginning with "\Documents and Settings\" is a junction. There are no files physically there, it's like a virtual signpost pointing to the other location, the one beginning with "\Users\". That's why if you include it, any files in \Users\ get shown twice.

Solution 1, clear your Winamp playlist then re-add your My Music folder. Select the folder, not the junction. I really don't see why Winamp is "duplicating" your entries unless you've added the junction as well.

Solution 2, do what stormy13 (and I myself) do: store your music in a different folder. Really, anywhere is fine. You're only having this issue because of the whole libraries/junctions thing.

I'm with fseal btw. I don't dislike the concepts of libraries and junctions per se; they can be useful. But bending over backwards and creating default ones just to cater to apps whose programmers were lazy enough to hardcode folder locations is not helping.
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