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Windows 7: Things you Hate about Windows Live Essentials????

04 May 2010   #1
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 
Things you Hate about Windows Live Essentials????

I use Windows 7 and I will enumerate my reasons to hate Windows Live Essentials:

1. I don't really like the way Microsoft allows you to install some of their software. They let you download a small setup file such as Office 2010 Beta , and running that setup file lets you download the rest of the application. So why not just let it be downloaded on a whole large file????

2. Months ago, I installed Windows Live Movie Maker and Windows Live Photo Gallery, but I soon found out that they were installed with things like Windows Sign in Assistant and Windows Live Skydrive Upload Tool which I don't need, frankly.

3. Windows Live Photo Gallery is somehow slower than Vista's Windows Photo Gallery, especially on loading image thumbnails. Windows Live Movie Maker- what the heck, Windows Movie Maker 2.6 was much more understandable and better.

4. I wanted to remove Windows Live Movie Maker but would like to keep Windows Live Photo Gallery, but I found no way to uninstall Windows Live Movie Maker only, I had to remove the entire Windows Live Essentials but that would rid off Windows Live Photo Gallery as well. I tried to uninstall it using CCleaner and Add/Remove programs but it always fails, it simply won't do anything to uninstall it.

5. I was finally able to uninstall Windows Live Essentials with Revo Uninstaller Portable, along with the other components like the Sign in Assistant and Skydrive Upload Tool, but my God, Windows Live Essentials left behind hundreds in not a thousand registry keys, orphaned files and folders in the C: drive. Running a registry scan, revealed even more orphaned registry entries. I fixed them all but have backed up the registry with Erunt beforehand.

6. I wanted to reinstall Windows Live Photo Gallery, so I had to run the wlsetup-web setup file again. It says, I already have Windows Live Photo Gallery and Windows Live Movie Maker installed. What the heck?????? I thought I just removed them completely. It could only mean that there is some left over file or registry entry that is telling the setup that Windows Live Movie Maker and Windows Live Photo Gallery is still there. Now there is no way to reinstall Windows Live Photo Gallery!!!!!!

That was among the worse software experiences, I ever had....

Now has anybody seen the same???


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04 May 2010   #2
pbcopter

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

1. They do allow you to download the entire Office beta. This is not part of Windows Live essentials.
Microsoft Office 2010 Beta Professional Plus - Free Download
2. These are free programs and they have set them up to require certain extra programs.
3. Haven't noticed this.
4 and 5. Microsoft didn't leave thousands of registry keys behind, CCcleaner and Revo did.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled but always used Programs and features and have had no problems. I don't hate anything about Windows Live Essentials plus it is free.
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04 May 2010   #3
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pbcopter View Post
1. They do allow you to download the entire Office beta. This is not part of Windows Live essentials.
Microsoft Office 2010 Beta Professional Plus - Free Download
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Yes, what I meant with no. 1 is that Windows Office 2010 Beta always comes in that small setup package in the primary download site where it is found. I have already downloaded the large setup file of Office 2010 Beta weeks ago. Thanks anyway.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pbcopter View Post
4 and 5. Microsoft didn't leave thousands of registry keys behind, CCcleaner and Revo did.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled but always used Programs and features and have had no problems. I don't hate anything about Windows Live Essentials plus it is free.
That is a big mistake, CCleaner and Revo do not create registry keys that they will remove by themselves because they are still installed. How do you explain that the registry keys removed have the phrases "Windows Live" ,"Windows Live Photo Gallery" or "Windows Live Movie Maker" in them????

And how do you explain this comparable complaint I just found about Windows Live Essentials????

http://www.windowslivehelp.com/threa...6-13be8c2e5481
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04 May 2010   #4
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

Here is a screenshot to explain it better. You can see the list of currently installed programs using CCleaner's module. It clearly shows that Windows Live Photo Gallery and Windows Live Movie Maker are completely gone but re-running the wlsetup-web, shows that the setup still thinks that Windows Live Photo Gallery and Windows Live Movie Maker are still installed which is wrong...


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04 May 2010   #5
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Why did you do an uninstall with CCleaner? why not with just the regular uninstall?

Edit: NVM I just re-read you wanted only one of the two programs so you tried to clean it out
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04 May 2010   #6
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

do you have a restore point you can revert to? if so, you could go back and uninstall the whole thing
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04 May 2010   #7
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
do you have a restore point you can revert to? if so, you could go back and uninstall the whole thing
Yes, I still have a restore point that can take back Windows Live Essentials along with Photo Gallery and Movie Maker but hello, I decided to uninstall Windows Live Essentials so I can get rid off Windows Live Movie Maker in the first place so system restore will only revive that as well. And that would repeat the whole struggle to remove and clean up again.

About Photo Gallery, somebody told me that if I want to get Vista's Photo Gallery (not the Windows Live one), I may have to copy the Photo Gallery program folder from a Vista computer and paste that on my Windows 7 but there is no guarantee for that to work since it will lack certain files and registry components that came with Vista but are not available on Windows 7.

I am beginning to write off Photo Gallery as well since I have found a much better replacement called Photo! Editor 1.1 that has far wider functionality anyway.
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04 May 2010   #8
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

That would be my suggestion as well, Live essentials is a suite. there are tons of free programs that do all of these things. The system restore would restore these programs back so you can uninstall them in full instead of using CCleaner.
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04 May 2010   #9
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

Yes but, there has been reports of people having trouble uninstalling Windows Live Essentials in the first place. Nothing would happen if you try to remove it from Add/Remove Programs, no uninstall wizard whatsoever appears and the same thing happened when I tried to remove it with CCleaner.

I had to remove it with a far more powerful uninstall tool called Revo Uninstaller.
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04 May 2010   #10
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
I wanted to remove Windows Live Movie Maker but would like to keep Windows Live Photo Gallery, but I found no way to uninstall Windows Live Movie Maker only,
The standard uninstaller gives you the option to uninstall either the one or the other or both.
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