Acronis and System Restore running at the same time

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I have recently started using Acronis True Image Home 2010 for my data backup needs. I made one system image at start and now a days I backup my important files manually.

Before having come across Acronis, I used to depend on Windows Restore feature only and that did help me go back on many occasions. Now I am inclined towards disabling Windows Restore since I think I will be able to roll back to a stable state (State Image) if I face any problems. Plus, I often make backup copies of my most important files on a separate disk and have softwares' setups if I need to reinstall any of them.

Q1. Should I disable Windows Restore? What do you think?
Q2. Can I disable Image Monitor service? And the other two services?
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Here is my suggestion

Make a complete backup of your hard drive now and put it away.

Make another copy of your hard drive and update once a week as well as using system restore on default for once a week backups.

In the case of a problem, you can use system restore. If that does not work you can use your weekly back up. In the event of a problem, such as the back up has a virus etc. Go back to the first one that I told you to forget about.

I do not use acronis. Most here use Macrium Reflex or Paragon.

The choice is yours.
 

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I'm going to suggest leaving System Restore alone. It is much easier and ultimately safer to do a System Restore than restore an Acronis image (which will overwrite your entire OS if you do a full image restore). Unless you have severe HDD space issues (and if so, really, get a 2nd HDD, it's the best way to store Images), then Restore doesn't hurt anything, and in Windows 7 is really quite good. A Guy
 

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Thanks richc46, I have followed your advice. I have made and kept a full backup somewhere safe, and have set up scheduled incremental backups. I think it'll be good enough.

Thanks, A Guy. I'll turn System Restore on again. What you have said makes sense.
 

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Thanks richc46, I have followed your advice. I have made and kept a full backup somewhere safe, and have set up scheduled incremental backups. I think it'll be good enough.

Thanks, A Guy. I'll turn System Restore on again. What you have said makes sense.

You will never have to reinstall, again. You always will have a nice clean copy. Good luck my friend.
 

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There's a reason richc46 has all those badges and pips :). Here's hoping you never need that backup. A Guy
 

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There's a reason richc46 has all those badges and pips :). Here's hoping you never need that backup. A Guy


Nice comment A Guy, TY.
 

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Here is my suggestion

Make a complete backup of your hard drive now and put it away.

Make another copy of your hard drive and update once a week as well as using system restore on default for once a week backups.

In the case of a problem, you can use system restore. If that does not work you can use your weekly back up. In the event of a problem, such as the back up has a virus etc. Go back to the first one that I told you to forget about.

I do not use acronis. Most here use Macrium Reflex or Paragon.

The choice is yours.

+1 I work it the same as Rich i keep one System Restore Point so i have the option there if needed (I have not had a good success rate with System Restore)

Once a week i will do full scans with my Security Software, have a general clean up & defrag if needed then do an Image Back Up.

I also do an Image Back Up before installing any Software or Drivers i am not familiar with. (just in case)
 

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Here is my suggestion

Make a complete backup of your hard drive now and put it away.

Make another copy of your hard drive and update once a week as well as using system restore on default for once a week backups.

In the case of a problem, you can use system restore. If that does not work you can use your weekly back up. In the event of a problem, such as the back up has a virus etc. Go back to the first one that I told you to forget about.

I do not use acronis. Most here use Macrium Reflex or Paragon.

The choice is yours.

+1 I work it the same as Rich i keep one System Restore Point so i have the option there if needed (I have not had a good success rate with System Restore)

Once a week i will do full scans with my Security Software, have a general clean up & defrag if needed then do an Image Back Up.

I also do an Image Back Up before installing any Software or Drivers i am not familiar with. (just in case)
Thanks Mitch. To be honest, I stole the idea from another Guru, when I was new here.
 

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Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
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Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
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640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
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Here is my suggestion

Make a complete backup of your hard drive now and put it away.

Make another copy of your hard drive and update once a week as well as using system restore on default for once a week backups.

In the case of a problem, you can use system restore. If that does not work you can use your weekly back up. In the event of a problem, such as the back up has a virus etc. Go back to the first one that I told you to forget about.

I do not use acronis. Most here use Macrium Reflex or Paragon.

The choice is yours.

+1 I work it the same as Rich i keep one System Restore Point so i have the option there if needed (I have not had a good success rate with System Restore)

Once a week i will do full scans with my Security Software, have a general clean up & defrag if needed then do an Image Back Up.

I also do an Image Back Up before installing any Software or Drivers i am not familiar with. (just in case)
Thanks Mitch. To be honest, I stole the idea from another Guru, when I was new here.

:D we never seem to stop learning from each other, great thing about this place
 

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I have recently started using Acronis True Image Home 2010 for my data backup needs. I made one system image at start and now a days I backup my important files manually.

Before having come across Acronis, I used to depend on Windows Restore feature only and that did help me go back on many occasions. Now I am inclined towards disabling Windows Restore since I think I will be able to roll back to a stable state (State Image) if I face any problems. Plus, I often make backup copies of my most important files on a separate disk and have softwares' setups if I need to reinstall any of them.

Q1. Should I disable Windows Restore? What do you think?
Q2. Can I disable Image Monitor service? And the other two services?

Before I delve into this question, let me first note just a few things System Restore WILL NOT do:

1. restore personal files;
2. restore personal emails;
3. restore personal docs;
4. restore personal JPEGs, MPEGs;
5. restore a deleted file;
6. guarantee that a restore point will either exist or can be restored;
7. remove malware, viruses, Trojans, worms, etc.
8. many other things but I made my point.

BAZ raises the issue of "data backup needs." In computer parlance, data files are storage files; they are not program (*.exe) files, therefore, for the sake of this post, until one defines "data," I am not wont to make assumptions as how "best" to proceed - especially if one is to rely on System Restore to recover or replace lost or damaged JPEGs of the dog.

A suggestion has been made to make a copy of the HDD and put it away. Why? The assumption must certainly be that the files on the HDD are, presently, in a pristine state. Actually, Windows files on the install disc are in pristine state, everything thereafter is, well . . . who knows. My point is, following this recommendation provides no added security especially if my system is infected with a date-sensitive worm.

Given its limitations, I should think further debunking of the implied security of System Restore need not be addressed.

Because it was not asked for, I will not fully define what I consider a rational backup protocol except as follows:

1. In the overwhelming majority of cases, it is the OS partition that will become unstable - for whatever reason. Create and place the OS on an "OS-only" partition on the HDD. If ever one needs to go back to square one, format the partition and reinstall.

2. Once installed, institute and religiously follow an image-backup regimen. How often this is accomplished and whether one does full, incremental, or differential backups is a personal choice. For example, I only accomplish full image backups because (1) my OS-only partition of 100GB contains about 60GB of files which can be backed up in less than 20 minutes by Acronis - which I use and (2) creating incremental or differential backups are not an issue - until they have to be restored; the question I ask myself is, what would I like to do, restore one frequently made full image backup or restore a week-old full image back up and six incremental or differential backups at the same time. Anyone who has restored a slew of partial backups understands.

3. If one concludes that yesterday the OS was OK and today it is infected with whatever, format the OS partition and restore yesterday's image backup, which, of course, is stored other than on the HDD containing the OS partition.

4. Image backups of the remaining partitions/HDDs can be created on an as-needed basis, which is to imply that unless one is talking about a dynamic DBase directory, e.g., there is no need to regularly include image backups (backups in general) of unchanged or non-essential partitions/files.

The thrust of my discussion is that one can restore a full image backup of an OS partition, as I have defined it, faster and more reliably than utilizing System Restore - which is neither fast nor 100% reliable.

Monk
 

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...I do not use acronis. Most here use Macrium Reflex or Paragon.

I have been a devoted user of ATI Home for years -- and then, I upgraded a version on an xp box from 2009 to 2010 and networking stopped. Acronis was unable to come up with a fix that worked.

So, I tried out Macrium Reflect -- and was really impressed!

Now, I'm one of the ranks that uses MR all the time. I'm especially impressed with the WinPE boot disk creation feature, and the Recovery Boot Menu option.

IF you're an ATI Home user, you should take a serious look at MR. IF you're happy with a Linux boot CD, and it works for you, you can even use the free version indefinitely.
 

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