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Windows 7: Any thoughts on Registry cleaners?

29 Dec 2010   #31
Ciara

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

I change programs quite a lot and use CCleaner to clean up the bits (inc the reg) and not had any problems (I do backup the reg before installing and uninstalling)


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29 Dec 2010   #32
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I would also be interested to see any sources.

A lot of people make bold statements on this subject - there appears to be very little to back them up.

MS did include include a reg cleaner in their Onecare package.

However, it didn't sell very well, so they stoped selling it ( about a year ago - maybe less, can't recall exactly )



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
CarlTR6, Is there a website where I can see how Win 7 handles the registry?



Does MS make it's own version of a reg cleaner?
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29 Dec 2010   #33
Kari

 

I don't agree with Ed Bott in everything, but this article (although 5 years old) summarizes my opinion:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ed Bott
Why I don’t use registry cleaners

Welcome, Digg visitors. Wow, twice in three days an old post of mine gets picked up and Dugg like crazy. Just to be clear: If you have a specific problem with removing a specific program, a registry cleaning utility might be able to identify keys that will help you solve that specific problem. But that’s a rare scenario. Most people I know use registry cleaners as part of their magic cleanup routine, and I see very little upside and a lot of potential downside in this sort of routine use. Specifically, as I write below, I have never seen any evidence that routine “cleaning” of the registry has any positive effect. I stand behind that statement.
Full article: Why I don’t use registry cleaners | Ed Bott's Windows Expertise

Kari
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29 Dec 2010   #34
Punkster

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
I support the use of Ccleaner for the registry if -
1. you back up the registry first;
2. you know exactly what your are doing and delete only keys your 100% sure you don't need such as keys left over from software you have uninstalled.

I just finished a BSOD analysis that blamed the registry. The OP had used a registry cleaner and had no registry backup. The solution was a reinstall of Win 7.
Now i agree with you too, Carl... It's a little bit "silly" to not do a registry backup even though CCleaner and Auslogics Boostspeed makes automatic registry backups, just in case you don't know exactly what are you deleting or cleaning...

In fact, if you don't know exactly what you're doing, then yes, i suggest don't use a Registry Cleaner

Too bad for the OP that he has to reinstall the OS! good thing now is that he learned (the hard way, though) that registry cleaner can damage seriously an OS! now he'll have a Windows 7 Cleanly installed and no more Reg Cleaners doing any damage
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29 Dec 2010   #35
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I posted my little registry sermon that Kari quoted to the OP. He realizes his mistake. By the way, it was a registry cleaner he paid for. I will not give the name. I don't think he will be installing it on his new install of Win 7. I looked five of his dumps. They were nearly identical and all blamed the registry.
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04 Jan 2011   #36
Tatletz

windows 7 ultimate X64 bit
 
 

Well, guys lets summarize it => Yes or No !?
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04 Jan 2011   #37
Kari

 

Interesting to see how my answer is going to be commented...

But, here it is: I have been computing over 30 years. Used Windows over 20 years, since Windows 2. I do no longer remember how it was with earlier versions with Windows, but I do remember and know that at least since Windows 2000, I have never used any registry cleaners.

My reason is simply this: A Windows registry is even when "bloated" (as some fellow geeks say) a very small file. It does not affect Windows boot time or functionality, application boot time or functionality and so on. I can see no reason to constantly keep doing something that is so absolutely not necessary.

Read this and other forums. How often a request for help begins "I run a registry cleaning program and now my computer ..."?

So, the answer: No.

Kari
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04 Jan 2011   #38
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

And for an opposing view, in the left corner wearing pink trunks and weighing in at 165 pounds is Windows Live OneCare safety scanner.

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Microsoft still offers a registry cleaner and recommends that the registry be cleaned. From my own limited experience with Windows 7, it's probably not necessary to use a registry cleaner. However, if one chooses to use a cleaner I'd recommend either the OneCare cleaner or CCleaner ... IMHO ... FWIW
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04 Jan 2011   #39
Mike Connor

Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

An ever recurring discussion..........!

The truth is that as long as you have a sensible reliable backup system in place, and know how to use it, it doesn't much matter what you play with, as the worst that can usually happen is that you have to restore the system.

( This does not apply to things like playing with BIOS settings or "Flashing" programs, these can be very very expensive errors!!!).

If you have the fairly typical "single drive installation" with no backup, then you shouldn't play with anything at all unless you know what you are doing, because you WILL damage it or render it unusable. This is inevitable, and merely a matter of time.

Using a "registry cleaner" for "standard maintenance" on a regular basis merely reduces the time intervals between failures!

Regards....Mike Connor
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04 Jan 2011   #40
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor View Post
An ever recurring discussion..........!

The truth is that as long as you have a sensible reliable backup system in place, and know how to use it, it doesn't much matter what you play with, as the worst that can usually happen is that you have to restore the system.

( This does not apply to things like playing with BIOS settings or "Flashing" programs, these can be very very expensive errors!!!).

If you have the fairly typical "single drive installation" with no backup, then you shouldn't play with anything at all unless you know what you are doing, because you WILL damage it or render it unusable. This is inevitable, and merely a matter of time.

Using a "registry cleaner" for "standard maintenance" on a regular basis merely reduces the time intervals between failures!

Regards....Mike Connor
Good post, Mike. I especially like the statement in bold.
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