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Windows 7: Ultimate Windows Tweaker tool now available

16 May 2009   #11
omnium

Windows 7
 
 

Hi,
sorry 'Night Hawk', I didn't want to hijack your thread and I didn't saw that that Tweak 7 was already mentioned in another thread. Yesterday, it was to late for me

cu,
omnium


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16 May 2009   #12
Captain Zero

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

This thing is not to be trusted. I've tested all the tweakers currently available and this one is the least stable of the lot. By far, Windows Manager is the most stable and effective, followed closely by the new release of Tweak 7, released May 15.
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16 May 2009   #13
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero View Post
This thing is not to be trusted. I've tested all the tweakers currently available and this one is the least stable of the lot. By far, Windows Manager is the most stable and effective, followed closely by the new release of Tweak 7, released May 15.
I'm not making any comparisons to start with but simply letting people know this is available and yes it is still in it's own beta stage. None of these are things to rush into and go hog wild over since you can easily run into problems when checking everything off all at once.

Presently 7 is still not final to start with in itself. You still have to take one step at a time to see how things go. Try a few of those 7 toolbars that were fast to appear for XP and Vista that never seem to work well either! As I was mentioning before these can be a little easier for the novice while the advanced user wil generally tend to perform their own custom tweaks.

And no omnium I'm not worried that you were trying to hijack anything here by the way. If anything you simply provided an alternative for anyone that sees problems with the Ultimate tool there.
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16 May 2009   #14
skunksmash

SEVEN x64
 
 

hmm........ this closly resembles an app our ''DMEX'' created a while back.??


& how is this possible..??

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16 May 2009   #15
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

Yes i agree it's too recent a RC release to make a comparison =/
The person responsible for the Ultimate tool has probably been flat out getting ready for RC1 and has simply taken a break.

I know i would do

It's only been 2 weeks since RC1 was released for public download, i don't think it's fair to start comparing a peice of software to another, when one of those software peices hasn't even been updated since the release of RC1.

Either way i intend to give Ultimate tweaker another chance once it is updated.... atm i've done some of my own tweaks but they are rather performance and auditing orientated.

I expect ultimate tweaker to have alot of visual and interaction tweaks which i have not seen listed anywhere else yet. That's probably more due me slacking off and not looking, but hey
I've been getting distracted by Call of duty; world at war too much lately
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16 May 2009   #16
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash View Post
& how is this possible..??

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Windows XP isn't limited to 3.8gb odd of ram because it's 32-bit.
It's limited to under 4gb of ram because microsoft are lazy.

Windows xp doesn't have a large enuogh stack handling assembly (Memory management system) to go past 4gb of ram and M$ were too lazy to write one, when it's only a tiny bit more effort to fix the memory hogging behaviours of vista and release it as Windows 7.

So they did the latter.
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16 May 2009   #17
skunksmash

SEVEN x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sexytool View Post
Windows XP isn't limited to 3.8gb odd of ram because it's 32-bit.
It's limited to under 4gb of ram because microsoft are lazy.

Windows xp doesn't have a large enuogh stack handling assembly (Memory management system) to go past 4gb of ram and M$ were too lazy to write one, when it's only a tiny bit more effort to fix the memory hogging behaviours of vista and release it as Windows 7.

So they did the latter.
so .....it is in fact possible to use 4gb+ in vista x86 with S/W intervention, & not be limited to a 4096mb address space..??, i diddnt think that could be changed....




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16 May 2009   #18
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash View Post
4096mb address space..??,
You put the answer in your own post.
4096mb address space is what XP holds at highest.
All M$ did was increase the amount of addresses available e.g the maximum address space to something like 64,192
Then since they were already re-designing memory management they;
Implemented 64bit management
Implemented 64bit Dual channel support


Redesigned the core so instead of emulating 64bit ram management in a shell, True 64bit hardware interaction with the RAM was available (And thus spawned DDR3 RAM capability for motherboards)

That also allowed other apps to use the RAM, since W7 didn't have to take up all your ram and then emulate 64 bit capability and hand it out to your other applications.

It's also the reason why only W7 tweaks allow you to run 4gb+ ram in the 32bit version. Vista doesn't support true 64bit ram interaction or processing, which is why it still has too many problems. It's been emulated the entire time inside the Vista core memory footprint.
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16 May 2009   #19
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sexytool View Post
It's also the reason why only W7 tweaks allow you to run 4gb+ ram in the 32bit version. Vista doesn't support true 64bit ram interaction or processing, which is why it still has too many problems. It's been emulated the entire time inside the Vista core memory footprint.
I love this part! How to Enable More Than 3.5 GB of Memory in 32-Bit Windows Vista | Vista Rewired
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16 May 2009   #20
sexytool

Windows 7 dual with XP SP2 ((Highly Custom))
 
 

Love it... why? Vista takes advantage of a 36bit interaction tweak and hardware hack. It's not true 64-bit hardware interaction, even for the x64 releases.

I'm not too sure on the details, but from the looks of things W7 x86 simply uses the 64bit memory management system as a base and can still use 64bit ram addressing once the tweak is applied, since every current processor is 64bit capable.
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