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Windows 7: No MIDI Input

28 Feb 2010   #11
AJay

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

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Yes a driver is installed but not for the add-on card itself. You're good to go as soon as you install the maya 44 drivers,and plug the add-on on the maya pci. No need for anything extra.
This clearly seems to be something else than the installation. This isn't just me. Others have done it right aslo, it just doen't work in W7.

No midi in, no midi out...what to do?;P

No one knows anything about this registry hack?

Look here:

Putzlowitsch's Vista MIDI Mapper Control Panel - The Sierra Help Pages

and here...

Vista MIDI Tool • benryves.com


These may be what you're looking for, I know they're for Vista but probably worth a try (if you haven't tried them already.

However, if the MIDI driver included with the Maya install is not working in Win7 you still won't see anything. Your next option would be to purchase an inexpensive USB MIDI interface.

Ap
I've tried about everything. Not the Putzlowitsch's one though. I got to pick what I needed with that but no response unfortunetly. Well it was worth a shot.Thank you very much...I think I have to go with the usb midi cable yes.should identify that pretty easily. If not. God help us all:P

What kind of music do you make AP? and are you on V.I control forum?


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28 Feb 2010   #12
Aphelion

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AJay View Post
I've tried about everything. Not the Putzlowitsch's one though. I got to pick what I needed with that but no response unfortunetly. Well it was worth a shot.Thank you very much...I think I have to go with the usb midi cable yes.should identify that pretty easily. If not. God help us all:P

What kind of music do you make AP? and are you on V.I control forum?

See if you can find a used MOTU Fastlane, decent small interfqace, 2-in, 2-out, has both 32 & 64 bit drivers.

Mainly a professional guitarist by trade, but have been involved with MIDI since 1985 (gulp) and audio since it was introduced on computers. Have owned PC, Mac, Amiga 3000 and Atari ST... Written/recorded stuff for PBS and NPR, produced some local talent... Since my main gig is guitar I pick and choose which computer/musc projects I take on. February 13th I played a concert with Diane Schurr, a jazz vocalist I've known for years. Having fun, what can I say!

Recently purchased Addictive drums, also use some older Steinware V.I. as well as East-West Gold and Albino.

Ap
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01 Mar 2010   #13
fireberd

Windows 10 64 bit
 
 

I'm not that swift with MIDI as I just started using it, since installing Sonar (I'm using the current 8.5.3 Professional version) and setting up a home recording studio. But, looking over posts on the Sonar forum, I don't really see any issues of the type you are having posted on the Sonar forum and except for one user post everyone that has Win 7 seems to be happy with it. It has to be some type of driver is missing somewhere along the line.

I also have a Sonitus guitar to MIDI adapter and that even works.

One other thought, that is probably off base but worth mentioning. Audio functions are handled differently in Vista and Win 7 from XP. This comes up with Sound Drivers as Vista and/or Windows 7 specific drivers are needed and although it's not MIDI my be remotely related to hardware that was used in XP.
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01 Mar 2010   #14
AJay

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

found a cable, windows 7 ready. Yes it seems like a driver is the problem in the end but it really is a "microsoft has taken away midi device setup" issue. This goes for vista and 7.
If I could go to the control panel and pick my midi source everything would be fine. It's just visually gone and the ability to choose your midi sources is unavailable.
This issue will become more hot as people move towards 7. It's just many who is still on xp,and many converting to macs. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
Composers use what works.
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02 Mar 2010   #15
Aphelion

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AJay View Post
found a cable, windows 7 ready. Yes it seems like a driver is the problem in the end but it really is a "microsoft has taken away midi device setup" issue. This goes for vista and 7.
If I could go to the control panel and pick my midi source everything would be fine. It's just visually gone and the ability to choose your midi sources is unavailable.
This issue will become more hot as people move towards 7. It's just many who is still on xp,and many converting to macs. Why fix it if it ain't broke?
Composers use what works.

I don't see a lot of composers/studios moving to Macs, the last Mac only studio in town just bought a PC so they could have more options.

Also.. I've been writing for long time and I have absolutely no MIDI problems in Windows 7, I use Cubase & Sibelius as my main two composition programs and both my USB MOTU MIDI interface and the interface on the M-Audio Audiophile show up in all of my programs. I just select which interface to use, everything works. I just tried the Putzlowitschs Vista MIDI Fix control panel and it shows all of my MIDI devices, I can choose any one of them as the Default MIDI Device.

The real problem is, the drivers for your Audio card with the MIDI extension add-on card have not been updated.

Ap
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02 Mar 2010   #16
Aphelion

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AJay View Post
Yes a driver is installed but not for the add-on card itself.
This is not correct, there is a MIDI driver... it's a part of the audio card driver, they are installed simultaneously.


Ap
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04 Sep 2010   #17
johnleboeuf

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 
Has anyone figured this out?

I have an Alesis USB MIDI adapter and I also cannot get Windows7 to receive input from my MIDI devices. Did anyone ever figure this out? Thanks! -John
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30 Dec 2010   #18
AorphiA

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 
No Audio via Midi

My midi controls work just fine with USB/Midi cables, but there is no audio or sound. Say I hook the usb/midi cables up to my midi keyboard and then I pull up a standalone synth and I complete all the settings as needed for midi configuration etc., I then get no audio or sound from the device, yet I can see how the keys are being triggered on the standalone synth when I play keys on the midi keyboard. What I've found out from Realtek is, it's nothing wrong with their sound card, but... that the problem is with a limitation within the Microsoft WDM architecture.

I keep reading where the forum administrator has absolutely no problem with this issue on their computer, but offers very little help in resolving this issue for others, except to say... there is no problem, in short of saying that it's the problem of everyone else.

I've been a musician for over 35 years and XP was a dream machine for musicians looking to record music via midi or direct. If there was not an issue or problem with the Windows 7 platform for musicians, then it would be just as easy as a musician (previously) using the XP platform and musicians would not be stepping up and speaking out about a problem with the Windows 7 platform.

When MicroSoft created the Windows 7 platform, they certainly did not have a vested interest in all the musicians that used their previous XP platform to create music.

So I have this to say to the forum administrator, do not... continue to make it sound like it's the musicians fault, that they can't get Windows 7 to work properly for there recording needs... because there are a vast number of musicians that do talk among each other and yes I've heard many of them trashing there Windows 7 computers and purchasing Mac computers.
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30 Dec 2010   #19
Aphelion

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

If you're speaking to me...
I'm not the Forum administrator.. just another user like yourself.

First, go here.... ASIO4ALL - Universal ASIO Driver

Download the ASIO4All driver and set it up the Realtek with a 256 sample buffer.
Most all, if not all of the Virtual Instruments like to see low latency ASIO drivers.

ASIO is a low latency front end for the Realtek drivers... it works better than WDM in WinXP, Vista and Win7.

Here's my setup for Garritan Jazz Orchestra:

No MIDI Input-setup.jpg

The Realtec drivers/mixer still work the same except now you have a low latency ASIO driver.

I don't want to get into a MAC/PC thing but I've setup computers for professional studios for years.
While it used to be 80% Mac 20% PC it has changed over the past 6-7 years, now giving a slight edge to PCs.

Also, if you're serious about music, get a decent audio card, the internal devices have limited frequency response, the signal-to-noise ratio is terrible and most suffer from less than stellar drivers.

If you visit the Mac world (I have 2 Macs) as I do you will see they are having some serious problems regarding operating system upgrades, random latency and MIDI jitter... OSX has turned into a hulking monstrous resource hungry beast... it's not pretty over there right now. Apple has had to exclude all of their professional software from the "It Just Works" umbrella.


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16 Oct 2011   #20
Robert Greve

Danmark
 
 
WIN7 -> Problems with MIDI -> XP rules in this sence!!!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AJay View Post
Midi in doesn't work here. I've read that people have been talking about midi out but what about midi in? None of them work. And I can't find how to change it via registry. Don't even know what that is.
Sorry to make another topic but I am a musician and need my keyboard to send information in so I can make music.

The midi mapper etc. is only for midi out.

Thanks all
Hi Ajay,

Did you ever find a solution on this issue,....I have the excact same problem with Windows 7, Sonar 6 and trying to connect my Korg SV-1. Korg midi drivers is installed, Realtek onboard soundcard driver is and Asio4all drivers.

Sonar 6 can not find midi input device. Let me know what you ended up doing,....I'm exstremely frustrated. My setup worked absolutely perfect with Win XP and I can see a lot of people having similar issues with WIN7. Is the solution to go to MAC or selling the WIN7 and install the old XP??

I have an idea that a new soundcard or some other external device could solve this issue, but I'm not sure. Any recommendations, let me know. I'm an amateur musician and will not spend a fortune on external equipment,....but are ofcourse willing to pay something to get op and running with my setup again under WIN7.

I really hope to hear from you!

Best Regards,

Robert
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