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Windows 7: Blocking INternet access if patches not applied

04 Aug 2010   #1
Yanta

 
Blocking INternet access if patches not applied

Several months ago I posted about some software that allows me to centrally manage pushing patches to my home computer network, which is 2xXP and 9xWindows 7. I never did find any software that could accomplish the task, at least non-corporate software that didn't cost more than my car.

So, I'm still looking for a solution for that - but I'd also like to be able to block internet access for computers that dont have patches installed.

Untilmately, the ability to specify which patches are mandatory would be good, but at least a severity level of critical.

With 11 computers and 4 able bodied kids, it's time they learned to manage their own computers coz I just dont have the time anymore to do everything for them.

Anyone know if this can be achieved?

thanks
Tanya


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04 Aug 2010   #2
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

I'm not understanding what you want to do. You need to update all security protection provided by Windows Updates.
XP should be updated to SP3 with IE8.

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So, I'm still looking for a solution for that - but I'd also like to be able to block internet access for computers that dont have patches installed.
Disconnect those computers from the Internet ... unplug from the modem, if plugged in
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07 Aug 2010   #3
Yanta

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
I'm not understanding what you want to do. You need to update all security protection provided by Windows Updates.
XP should be updated to SP3 with IE8.

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So, I'm still looking for a solution for that - but I'd also like to be able to block internet access for computers that dont have patches installed.
Disconnect those computers from the Internet ... unplug from the modem, if plugged in
Sorry, I laughed when I first read your response, then it occured to me you might not be joking.

Quite often responses on these forums advocate such drastic acts. Remove the computer from their bedroom, unplug them etc. I was looking for something a little less harsh.

The down side to unplugging them is that I still have to manually go to each computer and check if it's up to date - if not, then unplug it then yell at the kids.

Where I used to work they used patchlink. And if certain patches were not applied then your internet access was blocked, though you could still use local applications.

Probably a combination of software and hardware was used to achieve this, but that's what I'm after. I still want them to be able to do their homework, just not surf the net, use MSN, facebook (yuk!), and so on. The last thing I need to do is give them an excuse for not completing homework.
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07 Aug 2010   #4
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

You could turn on Automatic Updates on each PC or maybe just the ones the kids use. Not much control but at least they get updated.

Jim
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07 Aug 2010   #5
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Here's one way to block Internet access How to Change the World: Internet Access Tip
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08 Aug 2010   #6
Yanta

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
You could turn on Automatic Updates on each PC or maybe just the ones the kids use. Not much control but at least they get updated.

Jim
Actually, I turned it off because I could not see any sense in downloading the same set of patches 11 times. Especially if they are large.
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08 Aug 2010   #7
Yanta

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
Here's one way to block Internet access How to Change the World: Internet Access Tip
thanks for that tip. I have a DLink, and I've maxed out the config with ACLs to prevent specific types of access, and to block P2P programs. I also use OpenDNS for more content filtering.

But neither of these address my need
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09 Aug 2010   #8
Yanta

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yanta View Post
Several months ago I posted about some software that allows me to centrally manage pushing patches to my home computer network, which is 2xXP and 9xWindows 7. I never did find any software that could accomplish the task, at least non-corporate software that didn't cost more than my car.

thanks
Tanya
The answer is ManageEngine's Desktop Central V7. The free version supports up to 25 workstations after a 30 trial period. So far it covers almost all my needs, and is extremely easy to use - with one exception.

Either I set up an administrator account on each machine that, or I enable the the built in administrator.

I opted for the second option. It has a strong password, and only I know it.

Problem is - when system boots user is presented with user login screen.

Q: Is it possible to log into windows directly with the user account, which is not password protected (please, I am aware of the risks of that!) - even with the administrator account enabled, such that after a reboot or system startup the user is presented with their usual desktop?

I did a search of the forums, but didn't find and answer, but I know the quesstion has been asked. Thread anyone?

This didn't work - Log On Automatically at Startup


thanks
Tanya
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10 Aug 2010   #9
MrBrian

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Have you looked into Microsoft's Windows Server Update Services? It's free.
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10 Aug 2010   #10
Yanta

 

Yes, I took a "quick" look at it some time ago. It appears to be limited to MS updates.

One of the many good features of ManageEngines Desktop Central is it's ability to also push non-microsoft patches. Eg. Abode and so on.

But it can also manage prohibitied software, and uninstall that software. I get a complete view of each computer, the software installed and centralised patch manaagement.

It can also deploy software packages, service packs and so on. Some of these features are in WSUS, but so far I have found ME DC to be a broader solution.

And it's also free for up to 25 computers after a 30 day trial period. It's perfect for my needs. I wish I'd found it months ago...

Desktop Management Software | Desktop Administration Software for Windows - ManageEngine Desktop Central
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