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Windows 7: McAfee Update (8/9/10) causes win 7 Problems

14 Aug 2010   #51
cluberti

Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Agreed - usually it would take something bad happening to reconsider an otherwise working antivirus, unless you can do performance or regression testing under their blessing to make sure they're not paying for more than they bargained for. A previous employer used to do this every year, although they had the ability to give us time and budget to performance test our software loads to make sure they performed well at what they were supposed to do, and didn't negatively impact system performance when running. McAfee was in for two years, until it got really bloated and failed both perf tests. It was replaced with Symantec, although from what I heard from a colleague that still works there that SEP got bumped out by Forefront last year after it took down a decent part of the corporate office when it flagged a critical application file as a virus.


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14 Aug 2010   #52
codyw

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
 
 

Since I use NIS 2010, I didn't notice if it has a feature in it that scans removable drives upon plugging them in. Normally, I just right-click the drive and immediately scan it after plugging it in.
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14 Aug 2010   #53
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
The problem seen at a school however means proving a strong case to the board of directors or whoever runs it that a better program is needed. Simply coming from any student however wouldn't be enough to convince them that any change was needed however. You simply have to take your own precautions from the beginning.
That's it Night Hawk, I brought it to their attention several times, since one of the classes was right down the hall from the server room. I usually got a lame reply of some kind like "We're looking into it".

I finally told them "You've been looking into it for 3 months now & everyone is still getting infected!" They didn't like that....

It was a regular occurrence to go to your class and sometimes your PC wouldn't be working because the virus hosed it....

Maybe I should sneak into the server room & put MSE on it....

Oh yeah...another casualty of McCrappy....I ran a SFC a week before this happened...I ran it after the debacle and look what I found:

{10}]"tcpmon.ini" of Microsoft-Windows-Printing-StandardPortMonitor-TCPMonINI, Version = 6.1.7600.16385, pA = PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE_INTEL (0), Culture neutral, VersionScope = 1 nonSxS, PublicKeyToken = , Type neutral, TypeName neutral, PublicKey neutral in the store, hash mismatch
2010-08-10 12:20:45, Info CSI 0000010f [SR] Cannot repair member file [l:20{10}]"tcpmon.ini" of Microsoft-Windows-Printing-StandardPortMonitor-TCPMonINI, Version = 6.1.7600.16385, pA = PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE_INTEL (0), Culture neutral, VersionScope = 1 nonSxS, PublicKeyToken = , Type neutral, TypeName neutral, PublicKey neutral in the store, hash mismatch
2010-08-10 12:20:45, Info CSI 00000110 [SR] This component was referenced by [l:198{99}]"Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.7600.16385.WindowsFoundationDelivery"
2010-08-10 12:20:45, Info CSI 00000113 [SR] Could not reproject corrupted file [ml:520{260},l:46{23}]"\??\C:\Windows\System32"\[l:20{10}]"tcpmon.ini"; source file in store is also corrupted

Thanx McAfee!
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14 Aug 2010   #54
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Isn't that delightful?! Too bad you couldn't bring your own with a different av program entirely installed and hear people ask why yours is the only one running! That would tick the school's staff off royally after having given you the usual "brush off"!

Don't think for a moment Mc A foo isn't giving the school a break on prices. Just like any other institution once they've made a decision on something it's "Mission Impossible" trying to sway them since you are only a student that comes and goes while they live there. That's how they look at things.

(in fact they'll likely simply pass the buck by saying one of our students brought in a virus.)
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15 Aug 2010   #55
codyw

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
 
 

Of course! Blame it on the students! That's probably what most of them would do anyways. They would look at the ways how students could be infecting the school computers (e.g. opening personal emails with or without attachments, thumb drives, bad websites) who knows. I can't believe that there is something as bad as McAfee's corporate products on the web that just don't work. As much as they advertise them, you would think that they would work and live up to what they are supposed to. But apparently not.
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15 Aug 2010   #56
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Unfortunately some companies are nothing but mere "profit houses" looking at the bottom dollar as to how well the sales are over offering the actual support base. I've run into that with other types of softwares and software support simply lacking for hardwares and devices sold in retail stores as well.

Sometimes the buy cheap ends up being the very limited or no support at all situation. "cheap support"!

(seen that with low cost digital camcorders that come without any software disk and no downloads available at the manufacturer's site!)
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16 Aug 2010   #57
codyw

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
 
 

The way I look at it - if a company is bad, they have poor support, and/or charge you for every time you call, their products don't live up to the means they should as advertised, they are not worth buying. In a world of computer threats today, how thousands emerging everyday, you NEED stable and strong protection, not a suite that just tells your computer that it has one but then sits there when you're being attacked.
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16 Aug 2010   #58
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

OK, the way I see it is like this:

It's a school, of course you are going to have students bringing in infected files or going to questionable sites.

But this is where the schools responsibility comes in, to expect behavior like that and compensate for it the best they can. By using a strong, proven AV, since it's basically a "Free for all" when it comes to files, websites and what not.

Not everything catches everything, but when you have a persistant virus that's been in the system for 3+ months and the AV you're using isn't weeding it out, then it's time to switch!

Another disturbing thing I've seen, I've walked past the server room several times, it was wide open with no one inside.
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16 Aug 2010   #59
codyw

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
 
 

It sounds like the personnel in the server room could careless! I guess if they want to have infected computers on their network, then that is their choice.
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16 Aug 2010   #60
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

What that shows is a lack of security in other areas besides which av program is being run! Sloppy for sure!

One reason why the av program here is favored over others is that it combines various protections along with a good firewall. Even when going to download a manual for a board from one company one of the regional links was blocked due to something it detected. I had to put the US link in as an exception on a name brand companie's site showing it can be a little overprotective at times!
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