Too many AV/AS?

MSE and a good router firewall is all I use. Have seldom if ever run into a virus-related problem. Used to load up Norton or McAffee and all they did was bog the system down.

-Max

antharr said:

I have encounter this same issue on multiple computers where you uninstall Norton or Mcafee only to see the free product clean up what the "paid-for" apps didn't even detect much less remove.

That happens every time someone brings me a dog-slow computer that has McrApafee or Scamantec installed and I replace it with Comodo and Malwarebytes.

At least Dell is now offering a "no security software installed" option on some of their new systems.. IMO the best option they've offered in years.

antharr said:

madtownidiot said:

At least Dell is now offering a "no security software installed" option on some of their new systems.. IMO the best option they've offered in years.

This is very good news indeed.

Now, if they started offering systems with unformatted HDDs and a win 7 install iso with drivers slipstreamed to a bootable flash drive.. it would almost make up for the defective hardware they recently got caught selling.

Shadowjk said:

I Have MSE and Norton 360 there are a Lot of falls with Norton I have found and I will never buy again I am only using it because I paid for it

Take the loss and dump the Norton product off your system. You'll be glad you did.

Personally, I think the A/V market has become just like the market for pharmaceuticals. They create diseases so they can sell pills. For many years I wondered if Symantec, McAffee and others were quietly paying hackers to write code that breaks their products so they could sell more of them. Tell me it ain't so!

-Max

madtownidiot said:

Now, if they started offering systems with unformatted HDDs and a win 7 install iso with drivers slipstreamed to a bootable flash drive.. it would almost make up for the defective hardware they recently got caught selling.

Agreed. Every time I buy a system I always wind up rebuilding it without the crapware that came with the box anyway. I bought this Dell last November and tried using it for awhile with just the factory install. Worked "OK" for awhile but after a month or two I started having driver issues, etc. Reformatted and reloaded it myself leaving out McAffee and the other vendor junk. Installed all my development tools and everything else I use. The box has been solid-as-a-rock since.

By the same token, though ... I can understand that most people don't understand how to do that so they have to sell the systems to be usable "out of the box". They just need to not include all the crapware. However ... putting that stuff on them makes 'em money.

I could probably make a business of "fixing the box" for people. You go buy your system at Best Buy (or Dell or wherever) then come over here and I'll rebuild it so it works.

-Max