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Windows 7: Does it appear that I am infected?

20 Sep 2010   #31
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

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I know I'm doing a shouldn't do by running multiple McAfee and MSE, but I don't have the knowledge to configure MSE properly and I like the ease of use of McAfee.
MSE really does not need configuring. However, if your preference is McAfee, you should uninstall MSE to avoid conflicts between two anti-virus programs.
Corrine,
Thank you for your advice. I know that it is considered bad to do what I am doing. But without knowing it I've been doing it for over 5 years with different AV and antimalware and have never been infected. I have never noticed any conflict. So although I know intrinsically it is wrong I find it hard to change something that is working. I've yet to receive any specific information as to the reason for the issues of using two programs running. Thanks again.
glennc
Glenn, you can have them installed on your computer, but you need to have only one "active" Anti-virus running all the time. It's your choice but more than one will hog your systems resources and possibly fight each other's virus definintions. The same goes for Anti-spyware. Use only one, "real time" program. The others that you have installed can be used for a back-up scan, if and when needed.

Look in Services (type services.msc in the start search bar) and set those extra applications that aren't needed/used for "real-time" to manual by clicking on properties.


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21 Sep 2010   #32
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello Jacee,
I have other AV's and Antimalware on demand also. I just have to wrap my head around using just one real-time program. I will certainly consider it and appreciate everyone's efforts to get me on the right track.
glennc
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21 Sep 2010   #33
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

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I just have to wrap my head around using just one real-time program.
Have you looked into a HIPS program? With HIPS nothing moves on your computer without your permission...nothing!

~Maxx~
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21 Sep 2010   #34
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

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I just have to wrap my head around using just one real-time program.
Have you looked into a HIPS program? With HIPS nothing moves on your computer without your permission...nothing!

~Maxx~
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Hey Maxxwire,
I don't even know what that program does. Looks interesting. Thanx
glennc
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22 Sep 2010   #35
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

glennc- Here is a brief description of what a Hostbased Intrusion Prevention System (HIPS) does from remove-malware.com...

A host-based IPS (HIPS) is one where the intrusion-prevention application is resident on that specific IP address, usually on a single computer. HIPS complements traditional finger-print-based and heuristic antivirus detection methods, since it does not need continuous updates to stay ahead of new malware. As ill-intended code needs to modify the system or other software residing on the machine to achieve its evil aims, a truly comprehensive HIPS system will notice some of the resulting changes and prevent the action by default or notify the user for permission.

In other words HIPS software allows the user to lock the desktop down so tightly with its default deny protection that noting can run without the user's permission making the computer safe from the effects of zero day Malware that AV programs can not detect because HIPS will not allow any code to be executed that the user has not pre-approved and it provides a 'severely hopped up on steroids' replacement for the very limited capabilities of Windows UAC.

~Maxx~
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22 Sep 2010   #36
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Thank you kind Sir for the explanation. I believe McAfee and Threatfire have limited capabilities. If you don't mind what is the brand that you use or suggest? I am interested into the concept and might give it a try and see it's benefits.
glennc

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glennc- Here is a brief description of what a Hostbased Intrusion Prevention System (HIPS) does from remove-malware.com...

A host-based IPS (HIPS) is one where the intrusion-prevention application is resident on that specific IP address, usually on a single computer. HIPS complements traditional finger-print-based and heuristic antivirus detection methods, since it does not need continuous updates to stay ahead of new malware. As ill-intended code needs to modify the system or other software residing on the machine to achieve its evil aims, a truly comprehensive HIPS system will notice some of the resulting changes and prevent the action by default or notify the user for permission.

In other words HIPS software allows the user to lock the desktop down so tightly with its default deny protection that noting can run without the user's permission making the computer safe from the effects of zero day Malware that AV programs can not detect because HIPS will not allow any code to be executed that the user has not pre-approved and it provides a 'severely hopped up on steroids' replacement for the very limited capabilities of Windows UAC.

~Maxx~
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22 Sep 2010   #37
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

For almost 2 completely Malware-free years I have been using the Comodo Firewall Pro with Proactive Defense+ HIPS that is shown at the top of the 148 part Matousec Proactive Security Challenge shown earlier on this page. Just last week comodo released Comodo Internet Security 2011 which has several layers of default deny protection including automatic sandboxing and Proactive Defense+ HIPS backed up by Cloud Antivirus scanning and Cloud Behavor Blocking provided by the Comodo Servers. Comodo also offers Malware Site Blocking DNS service all of which is totally free of charge.

~Maxx~
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22 Sep 2010   #38
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

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For almost 2 completely Malware-free years I have been using the Comodo Firewall Pro with Proactive Defense+ HIPS that is shown at the top of the 148 part Matousec Proactive Security Challenge shown earlier on this page. Just last week comodo released Comodo Internet Security 2011 which has several layers of default deny protection including automatic sandboxing and Proactive Defense+ HIPS backed up by Cloud Antivirus scanning and Cloud Behavor Blocking provided by the Comodo Servers. Comodo also offers Malware Site Blocking DNS service all of which is totally free of charge.

~Maxx~
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Maxxwire,
I think I got it now, again thanks for your time and patience. I am running the new free Comodo on my XP. From that list it outperforms McAfee and MSE. Being paranoid, I have gotten used to it, the Cloud based applications means that it takes place not on my machine. The initial concept of running my stuff through someone else's machines, seems counter-intuitive to me. Is it safe?
glennc
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22 Sep 2010   #39
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

The Comodo Cloud Scanning and Behavior Blocker scans any unidentified code on your computer and uploads it to the Comodo servers for analysis meanwhile the code in question will be automatically sandboxed where it has no access to the computer's registry or file system until it can be identified and dealt with. Meanwhile Comodo HIPS guards your computer from any unauthorized code running adding yet another layer of protection far more comprehensive than the UAC in Win 7.

~Maxx~
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22 Sep 2010   #40
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello Maxxwire,
Since I am not up to speed on sandboxing, I don't quite understand it. If it is sandboxed on their computers it is not sandboxed on mine. What differences in downloading and running programs and email etc. is there with a sandboxed system. I mean isn't that supposed to keep it from properly (albeit unsafe-fully) with my hardware?
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