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Windows 7: Are firewalls really needed?

21 Sep 2010   #51
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
have a look here and here for example - i only did a quick google - it's quite funny really, if true.
I see. As far as I know and have read the criticism leveled at Comodo's EULA can be leveled at most any software's EULA. Microsoft has an even more privacy invasive EULA and has openly pre-scheduled programs that send data to Redmond each and every day that the computer is in use and yet that does not prevent people from using Windows 7 which has a level of comprehensive data retrieval that did not even exist in previous versions of Windows, but the Comodo Firewall can be programmed to block all of MS's attempts to extract data from your computer on a daily basis.

~Maxx~
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21 Sep 2010   #52
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

mickey megabyte

Clicked the first link. I loved their moderators response at the bottom of the page.

US Congress question to Chairman of BP- "Did BP cause the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?"

BP Chairman- "No I don't play golf I enjoy yachting. I don't do the cooking so I don't know what oil the chef uses."

Hmmmm??????
Something got lost in the legal translation I beleive.
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21 Sep 2010   #53
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Max, I was using Comodo until I discovered that Comodo sends information about the user's surfing to a third party. Maybe they don't do that any more; but I dropped Comodo.
Do you have documentation of this? From what I read there were some vague comments about Comodo's EULA which contains the same kind of legal jargon that MS has in their EULA only much milder about collecting user information and now the rumor has turned into these as yet undocumented accusations.

People need to wake op and realize who the real information gathering and dissemination enemy is. Most people have no idea that Google shares their information with everyone on the list of results that they get from them that's why I recommend using the Scroogle Scraper for truly anonymous and encrypted delivery of search engine results.

I try the best I can to be security conscious and this is why I am very interested in any documentation that you have about Comodo selling user information because it wouldn't be right to act on hearsay.

~Maxx~
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Max, I will see if I can find the link. It was posted on one of the security forums. I looked it up at the time. I also think one of the security experts posted here also.
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21 Sep 2010   #54
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

CarlTR6- I remember the controversy that you are referring to. Digging into the EULA of any software can lead to all sorts of wild speculations. There is a lot of ruthless completion in the world of computer security but I think its best to focus on what the software can do rather than to try to twist some legal jargon into something potentially incriminating. I value an honest set of side by side tests any day with the freedom to choose the best protection over gossip and speculation about the contents of the respective product's EULA because even the best sounding and eloquently written EULA will not protect your computer...



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21 Sep 2010   #55
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

i never touched or gave a thought about ZA because even our company listed it as a threat for computer security & personal information being shared. Thank you CarlTR6 & its good to know that it isn't compatible with Win 7 or else many more would have fall in the pit.
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22 Sep 2010   #56
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

I've spoken with people who were using ZA about 7-8 years ago and according to them it was THE computer security software to have back in 2002.

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22 Sep 2010   #57
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Maxx i got my Comodo firewall 5.0...can you help me with HIPS settings??? is it 'define a new application' under firewall option???i clicked on it & did set 'all applications'...
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22 Sep 2010   #58
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

deepakumar- Congratulations on your new state of the art multi-layered default deny computer security software! Make sure to do a full scan to make sure that your computer is clean before setting up HIPS.

Comodo makes using HIPS easy if you first in the GUI go into Defense+> Advanced> Defense+ Settings and set it to Training Mode and then one by one start all of the programs that you use and HIPS will learn all of your trusted programs. When you are finished return Defense+ to Safe Mode and it will notify you of any unauthorized code executions on the desktop.

If you set the Comodo Firewall in Custom Policy Mode in the GUI Firewall> Advanced> Firewall Behavior Settings it will alert you each time a program requests to access the internet and you can then choose to allow or block the request which will establish your Firewall Rules.

If you have any more questions please feel free to ask.

~Maxx~
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22 Sep 2010   #59
antares

Windows XP Professional SP3/Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Maxx, do you regularly check with ShieldsUP site to make sure that all ports are stealth? As you start using all programs,and manually set the policy rules you never occasionally have a closed port (blue) instead of stealth (all green)? I tested both Norton Internet Security (versions 2008 through 2011) and Comodo Firewall and it happens with both. The solution I found is to do a firewall reset when this happens which among other things deletes all policy rules prompting me to rebuild them again. But eventually it happens again, can't seem to find a permanent fix to this.
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22 Sep 2010   #60
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
to OP

YES - but hardware or software or a combination of both -- over to you.

I tend to prefer Hardware firewall protection with some minimal software solutions since all my surfing is via a Virtual Macine and NOTHING but NOTHING gets transferred to my REAL hardware until its been properly checked out.

If I get any Virus problems I just restore the Virtual machine -- like they say in those UK Meerkat commercials --SEEEMPLES.

However getting a decent HARDWARE firewall in a router is not that easy -- you need to get a commercial quality router. Most Home routers are fairly basic in this but they do provide decent logging.

Cheers
jimbo
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