McAfee Continues to Harm WinPatrol Users

Corrine said:

madtownidiot said:

Also, completely removing McAfee is not as easy as simply uninstalling it. McAfee wouldn't make a removal tool if it weren't necessary.

There is a removal tool for just about all of the A/V software programs. Symantec is actually much more difficult to remove.

It is the business arrangements between the OEMs and the software vendors that lowers the price.

Which is why most PC's/Laptops come preinstalled with Windows.

However, you can buy a PC/Laptop with windows, and reject the EULA on it.
Because the cost of the license is included in the cost of the machine, they (the Store) must then refund you for the license, remove Windows, and return that license to Microsoft.
Not sure if it applies to licenses for bundled software, if any...
But that's for another post for another day...

xarden said:

.... you can buy a PC/Laptop with windows, and reject the EULA on it.
Because the cost of the license is included in the cost of the machine, they (the Store) must then refund you for the license, remove Windows, and return that license to Microsoft.
Not sure if it applies to licenses for bundled software, if any...
But that's for another post for another day...

Actually that's not quite as easy as it sounds either...
from the windows 7 eula:

By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept them, do not use the software. Instead, contact the manufacturer or installer to determine its return policy. You must comply with that policy, which might limit your rights or require you to return the entire system on which the software is installed.

Most manufacturers will of course refuse to provide a refund for windows unless the entire computer is returned

madtownidiot said:

xarden said:

.... you can buy a PC/Laptop with windows, and reject the EULA on it.
Because the cost of the license is included in the cost of the machine, they (the Store) must then refund you for the license, remove Windows, and return that license to Microsoft.
Not sure if it applies to licenses for bundled software, if any...
But that's for another post for another day...

Actually that's not quite as easy as it sounds either...
from the windows 7 eula:

By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept them, do not use the software. Instead, contact the manufacturer or installer to determine its return policy. You must comply with that policy, which might limit your rights or require you to return the entire system on which the software is installed.

Most manufacturers will of course refuse to provide a refund for windows unless the entire computer is returned

Ok.
I meant the retailer that you bought it from, not the manufacturer.
It is most common with Linux users. They love it. And theres plenty of success stories around.

"By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept them, do not use the software. Instead, return it to the retailer for a refund or credit. If you cannot obtain a refund there, contact Microsoft or the Microsoft affiliate serving your country for information about Microsoft's refund policies."

Also, some casual reading...
Dell refunds PC user for rejecting Windows • The Register
Getting a Windows Refund in California Small Claims Court | Linux Journal
Linux.com :: How to get a Windows tax refund

Also in short, if you already have a windows 7 professional, or business license that you want to load on your PC that came with Home or Premium, you should be well entitled to a refund of the preloaded OS.