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Windows 7: Norton Internet Security 2011

30 Oct 2010   #51
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
several more advanced Security Suites do much better on the 148 tests with several in the 90% range and one even scoring 100%.
And some of those fail to detect malware that Norton detects when real samples are used.

You can look at simulators (Matousec, leaktests) or you can look at real malware (AV-Comparatives.org, AV-Test.org, etc.)
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Webroot, Zone Alarm, Avira and others were tested on only 84 tests, but the report shows Norton passed 40% of 148 tests on the Matousec Proactive Security Challenge.
Look at the .pdf for Norton.


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30 Oct 2010   #52
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
And some of those fail to detect malware that Norton detects when real samples are used.
Is that why Norton is the only Security Suite that ever completely failed at detection and let Malware into my computer? Obviously you have no idea what its like to be betrayed by Norton. I went looking for real preventative protection and instead of outdated after the infection detection and removal and stepped up to Sandboxie and a top testing Firewall and HIPS and I haven't detected a piece of Malware on my computer since not even so much as a tracking cookie with my browser running in the virtual space of Sandboxie...



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30 Oct 2010   #53
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Sandboxie is one software we both use (I only use it on special occasions now) and recommend...

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Is that why Norton is the only Security Suite that ever completely failed at detection and let Malware into my computer?
How many have you tried and how do you know most of them wouldn't have failed with the same infection?

What did you use to detect the infection?
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30 Oct 2010   #54
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
How many have you tried and how do you know most of them wouldn't have failed with the same infection? What did you use to detect the infection?
Don't try to cover for Norton. Norton failed my computer plain and simple. The Malware that Norton let into my computer was quite common as it was detected by another program on the computer at the time. Norton failed to protect my computer and the Malware was detected and named by another security software much to the embarrassment of Norton.

After I uninstalled Norton and cleaned up the mess it left I installed Sandboxie which puts the aging Antivirus technology out of business because Malware can be destroyed from within the virtual space of Sandboxie where it can not harm the computer and the only use aging and outmoded Antivirus technology has is providing the name of the Malware that is to be destroyed in the virtual sandbox.

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30 Oct 2010   #55
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Norton has never failed our computers. Detected many things back in the day and continues to protect my sister... the type that needs all the help they can get.

Whatever security software detected it most likely has failed many times too.

I'm not trying to cover up for Norton. I've watched it fail in my tests just like every other anti-virus and almost all other security products. Nothing can guarantee 100% protection. Not even the top scorers on Matousec.
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30 Oct 2010   #56
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Norton failed my computer plain and simple. The Malware that Norton let into my computer was quite common as it was detected by another program on the computer at the time.
Every security software in the world has missed malware that another has detected. We're talking about one
infection from 1-2 years ago and a product from 1-2 years ago.
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31 Oct 2010   #57
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

[QUOTE=malexous;1046877]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Every security software in the world has missed malware that another has detected. We're talking about one
infection from 1-2 years ago and a product from 1-2 years ago.
Why are you making excuses for Norton's failure? Only one Security Suite has failed my computer and that was Norton. No other Security software has ever failed on any of my computers...just Norton.

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31 Oct 2010   #58
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
Whatever security software detected it most likely has failed many times too.

I'm not trying to cover up for Norton. I've watched it fail in my tests just like every other anti-virus and almost all other security products. Nothing can guarantee 100% protection. Not even the top scorers on Matousec.
No, don't try to blame the other security software that embarrassed Norton by catching the Malware that Horton let on to my computer undetected only Norton failed on my computer the other computer security program never failed...only Norton failed!

Don't get antiquated Antivirus software which does fail often because it relies on a definitions blacklist confused with the multi-layered computer security of the top scorers on the Matousec Proactive Security Challenge which use State of the Art Automatic Sandboxing of unrecognized programs, HIPS which can detect zero-day Malware which an Antivirus can't along with Cloud Based Malware scanning and Cloud Based Behavior Blocking which garner them scores 500% higher than Norton.

How ironic that a rag tag group of volunteer computer security programmers could write security software that consistently tests 250% more effective in 148 security challenges than the multi-billion dollar $ymantec corporation could afford to buy and then run into the ground like they did with the PC Tools Firewall Plus that was at the very top of the Matousec test results before $ymantec bought them out and now PC Tools ranks 12th just above $ymantec's Norton Internet $ecurity.

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31 Oct 2010   #59
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
500% higher than Norton.
I suppose you have proof?

How am I blaming other security software? The other security program never failed you. Doesn't mean it never fails. What is the security program you speak of?

"Don't get antiquated Antivirus software which does fail often"

Then start posting the same in other threads where MSE, Avast! etc. are being discussed/recommended. Norton catches malware they don't (and vice versa). (e.g. AV-Test.org Tests of Anti-Virus- and Security-Software)
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31 Oct 2010   #60
codyw

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1
 
 

I was completely unaware of all Norton's failures. I do know that some products struggle when it comes to dealing with rogue AV's just because they can burry themselves deep in your system. I used Norton 2010 last year and part of this year before upgrading to the 2011 version and have not had an invasion yet. One of my clients had an invasion while using Norton 2010 (and they still are) and Norton blocked both attacks with nothing let in. I have watched tests on YouTube on the 2010 and 2011 versions and they all seemed to be about the same. I did notice that Trend Micro didn't get the best overall rating on some tests though...
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