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Windows 7: Comodo vs Symantec

19 Oct 2010   #31
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

You're welcome, pparks1.

I couldn't agree more with your comment:

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I think it's safe to say there is no 1 program which does everything perfectly.



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19 Oct 2010   #32
madtownidiot

 

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Today I installed Norton 360 V5 beta and its wayyyy better than Comodo in all the terms.
Did you see the Matousec Proactive Security Challenge results I posted above? On what scale is Norton's 40% pass rate wayyy better than the 100% score Comodo received on the rigorous 148 part test done by one of the most reputable computer testing firms?

~Maxx~
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EDIT--- misread thinking test was NIS 2009.

Is there a newer test with 2011?
If you have an extra computer you could download the test yourself and try it.. see how much of it NIS 2011 catches. I tried it on the current version of comodo and it caught every single sample
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19 Oct 2010   #33
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
If you have an extra computer you could download the test yourself and try it.. see how much of it NIS 2011 catches. I tried it on the current version of comodo and it caught every single sample
I do have an extra computer, but it was previously infected while being "protected" by Norton and since it has never been infected after I got rid of Norton and replaced it with Comodo freeware I intend on keeping it that way.

~Maxx~
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19 Oct 2010   #34
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
If you have an extra computer you could download the test yourself and try it.. see how much of it NIS 2011 catches. I tried it on the current version of comodo and it caught every single sample
I do have an extra computer, but it was previously infected while being "protected" by Norton and since it has never been infected after I got rid of Norton and replaced it with Comodo freeware I intend on keeping it that way.

~Maxx~
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Right on... I do so many OS installs in the average day, I forget sometimes that most people would rather never have to reinstall windows
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19 Oct 2010   #35
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
I do have an extra computer, but it was previously infected while being "protected" by Norton and since it has never been infected after I got rid of Norton and replaced it with Comodo freeware I intend on keeping it that way.

~Maxx~
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Perhaps after ridding yourself of Norton, you never stumbled upon a website/file/attachment with a significant problem/threat/otherwise. You might have had the exact same experience with nothing at all on your machine.
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19 Oct 2010   #36
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Right on... I do so many OS installs in the average day, I forget sometimes that most people would rather never have to reinstall windows
Its not that I don't want to reinstall Windows as I have several different Macrium backup images and a variety of Windows System Images and it only takes 4-5 minutes using the LaCie 2TB Raid 0 eSATA HDD that I have them stored on its just that personally I am done with fiddling with Norton after its colossal failure of letting Malware onto my computer and telling me that the computer was clean all the while it was there until detected by a 3rd party scanner.



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20 Oct 2010   #37
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
I do have an extra computer, but it was previously infected while being "protected" by Norton and since it has never been infected after I got rid of Norton and replaced it with Comodo freeware I intend on keeping it that way.

~Maxx~
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Perhaps after ridding yourself of Norton, you never stumbled upon a website/file/attachment with a significant problem/threat/otherwise. You might have had the exact same experience with nothing at all on your machine.
I have 3 teenagers in my house..judging by the typical firewall and defense+ logs on their computers, I would say it takes about 20 minutes for one of them to find a malicious website.
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20 Oct 2010   #38
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Maxxwire isn't your child. Three people use our computers and haven't come across malicious software in many years (except on purpose).
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20 Oct 2010   #39
madtownidiot

 

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Maxxwire isn't your child. Three people use our computers and haven't come across malicious software in many years (except on purpose).
Oh, for goodness sake, all I was trying to say is there are tons of malicious sites out there. I mentioned my kids because they seem to have a talent for finding them. They never seem to figure out that it's a bad idea to follow links from one page to the next at random. Unless a person has developed a habit of only going to a few sites they on a regular basis, chances are they will encounter something bogus very quickly. Pretty sad situation, but that's what the internet has come to.
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20 Oct 2010   #40
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

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Why is that? Last I checked, they both have the same purpose.. stopping viruses and malicious software from infecting a computer.
Exactly, no real malware was used and even some of the methods used in the tests are not used by real malware.

Not all products are tested fully:

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Since they don't distinguish between products that actually received all tests and products that didn't receive all tests, the number of tests a product received is misleading
Matousec Personal Firewall Tests Analyzed

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Every vendor has a right to request a paid Proactive Security Challenge testing, in which case its product will be tested in all levels regardless the results on each of the levels. After the vendor receives the results of the paid testing, it can either keep them private or request their publishing on our website
Introduction - www.matousec.com

Not all products are designed for the tests. The only products that do well have HIPS (many refer to Matousec tests as HIPS tests). Until recently Matousec had no problem testing firewalls, HIPS and behaviour blockers and labeling the tests as a firewall challenge.

Matousec’s New Moves to Recapture the label “Trustworthy” « Smokey's Security Weblog

The tests contain packet filtering (firewall) yet some products like Mamutu have no packet filtering capabilty (it's a behaviour blocker). Emsisoft have asked for Mamutu to be removed but Matousec refuses.

Matousec is happy to remove past results, though, after attempting blackmail. Online Armor temporarily disqualified on Matousec Proactive Security Challenge - Wilders Security Forums

There is a lot more reading to be had regarding Matousec. A good start is to search for Matousec at Wilders Security Forums.
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